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OCR MEI Numerical Methods 12th June 2015

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Original post by Genty Boy
This year was fair, what about you?


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Not too bad other than the lagrange question which I only realised how to do at the end so ran out of time but the rest was ok i think
Answers I rememebr
2431 2433.1 or sumthing ill contioned problem 0.759 (secant)
Doing core 3 first warmed me up and boosted my confidence for NM.

I am certain I got most of it right, unfortunately I didn't finish question 7, I plotted the graph but then I realized they asked me to plot it between 0 and 1 so I didn't bother drawing secant method sketches.

I only got up to the x<sub>4</sub>, I asked for extra paper to do x<sub>5</sub> but I only got as far as writing the formula and writing the first two digits (0.6)


With the integration question.

At first I was going to do simpsons rule with two parabolas, I interpolated 0, 0,1 and 0.2 and integrated it exactly.



I was going to add the area under the parabola passing through 0.2, 0.4 and 0.6 but then I realized they didn't give me f(0.6) so I used mid-point rule and multiplied 0.4 by f(0.4) (forgot what it was)

So basically I added the parabola area and midpoint area to get my best estimate for integral I, that gave me 1.18 something but I was unsure to what degree of accuracy I should give.

I also wrote mid point rule, trapezium rule could not be done for all the points because f(0.3) and f(0.6) were not provided.


I then went back and use Lagrange interpolation to find a cubic passing through all of the given points. I integrated between 0 and 0.6 and found the area was about 1.16

So I said my best estimate was "1.2", to one decimal place.

In the second part where I had to explain what I would do different if they'd given me f(0.6), I wrote I would use simpsons rule with two parabolas.

For the differentiation question, I said with decreasing values of h, there are less and less decimal places so it becomes less accurate. At first I wrote down the best possible estimate for the gradient at 1 was 0.2 but I changed to 0.24 because:
3 out of the 5 estimates rounded to 0.24

If you do lagrange interpolation with the first 4 points (ignore the 5th point), and differentiate the cubic exactly, you get and answer that rounds to 0.24
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Original post by Primus2x
Doing core 3 first warmed me up and boosted my confidence for NM.

I am certain I got most of it right, unfortunately I didn't finish question 7, I plotted the graph but then I realized they asked me to plot it between 0 and 1 so I didn't bother drawing secant method sketches.

I only got up to the x<sub>4</sub>, I asked for extra paper to do x<sub>5</sub> but I only got as far as writing the formula and writing the first two digits (0.6)


With the integration question.

I said mid point rule, trapezium rule could not be done for all the points because f(0.3) and f(0.6) were not provided


At first I was going to do simpsons rule with two parabolas, I interpolated 0, 0,1 and 0.2 and integrated it exactly.

I was going to add the area under the parabola passing through 0.2, 0.4 and 0.6 but then I realized they didn't give me f(0.6) so I used mid-point rule and multiplied 0.4 by f(0.4) (forgot what it was)

So basically I added the parabola area and midpoint area to get my best estimate for integral I, that gave me 1.18 something but I was unsure to what degree of accuracy I should give.

I then went back and use Lagrange interpolation to find a cubic passing through all of the given points. I integrated between 0 and 0.6 and found the area was 1.16

So I said my best estimate was "1.2", to one decimal place.

In the second part where I had to explain what I would do different if they'd given me f(0.6), I wrote I would use simpsons rule with two parabolas.


remember the centrail drifference?
.23467
.2348
.235
not sure exact what did you give ur final answer as and why > i put 0.2 as 3 h round to it
lagranges gave 0.5 more then aalpha for me as I did not ignore the last point
What was the absolute and relative errors for the question where you had to do 11u1v\frac{1}{\frac{1}{u}-\frac{1}{v}}

Also in the question where:
Original post by RemainSilent
remember the centrail drifference?
.23467
.2348
.235
not sure exact what did you give ur final answer as and why > i put 0.2 as 3 h round to it


I meant 0.24, Yeah I put that though.

You can't use central difference because you have no x values less than 1, they tell you to use forward difference
Original post by Primus2x
I meant 0.24, Yeah I put that though.

You can't use central difference because you have no x values less than 1, they tell you to use forward difference


oh yeah thats what I meant :P
Original post by RemainSilent
can rememer the exact answer but i got 1/u = 0.090909 and 1/v something aroud both to 5 s.f. and then calulcated it;

for secant thing i did about 7 or more iterations? you too or?


Ok.

I only had time to do four integrations, up to x4x_4 and I only wrote "0.6" for x5x_5 because the invigilators took my paper away before I could write everything else.
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Original post by Primus2x
Ok.

I only had time to do four integrations, up to x4x_4 and I only wrote "0.6" for x5x_5 because the invigilators took my paper away before I could write everything else.


I did it but seemed like a lot of work for 5 marks...


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Original post by natalie987
Not too bad other than the lagrange question which I only realised how to do at the end so ran out of time but the rest was ok i think


Good good, the weird question was on the midpoint trapezium rule estimates. I was unsure about that and there's probably many ways that people did it that are all quite valid...


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Original post by RemainSilent
remember the centrail drifference?
.23467
.2348
.235
not sure exact what did you give ur final answer as and why > i put 0.2 as 3 h round to it


Was forward difference wasn't it?


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Original post by Genty Boy
Good good, the weird question was on the midpoint trapezium rule estimates. I was unsure about that and there's probably many ways that people did it that are all quite valid...


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I did Simpsons for the first integral (between 0 and 0.2 ) and mid-point for the second (between 0 and 0.6) then added them together,

But I also tried to interpolate everything with a lagrange polynomial (since 4 points were provided) and integrated it between 0 and 0.6.
Original post by Primus2x
I did Simpsons for the first integral (between 0 and 0.2 ) and mid-point for the second (between 0 and 0.6) then added them together,

But I also tried to interpolate everything with a lagrange polynomial (since 4 points were provided) and integrated it between 0 and 0.6.


Yet again, another dodgy midpoint/trapezium/Simpson question on a NM paper


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