were isis created by america/israel

Yes 100%

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What an idiotic claim, from the usual mindless conspiracy theorists.

There is only one country that has consistently fought ISIS (and its precursor organisation, Al-Qaeda in Iraq) and that is the US. They have been fighting them since 2003.

In fact, only one country has really defeated them and it is the United States. In 2006, Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) was undertaking a devastating campaign of suicide bombings against Shi'a mosques, religious processions and Iraqi police. The United States, against all the protests by the left, sent in tens of thousands of extra troops to deal with the problem (the "Surge".

They also convinced the Sunnis to join them (the "Anbar Awakening". From a high of perhaps 50,000 Iraqis dead in 2006, by 2011 when the US left Iraq, the number was down to about 5,000 a year (something akin to South Africa's murder rate) and AQI was a busted flush, completely spent and exiled to the Western deserts.

It was the Syrian Civil War and Shi'a Iraqi PM Maliki's new campaign of sectarian oppression against the Sunnis after the Americans left that led to the rebirth of AQI (as ISIS/ISIL this time).

To claim that the Americans and Israelis were funding them is just the usual old horse**** from the Muslim world blaming everyone else for their problems.

I remember a photo of their leader and he had a CIA badge on lol dont know if its real though, but yeah i think they are helping zionist agenda.

Hey look everyone I found a sheep

Hey look everyone, I found an unlettered conspiracy nut whose lack of historical knowledge about the Iraq War means he is utterly incapable of offering any sort of rebuttal.

Tony Blair is apologising for his role, which encouraged the rise of ISIS and other terrorist groups, amid a growing petition calling for his arrest.

Because sorry brings back the millions of deaths on his hands.

Why has Russia achieved much more in a few weeks than the US have over many years?

And this is relevant to the thread, how?

The level of stupidity on this thread

Quite impressive

What does that have to do with the claim that the US is funding ISIS? Try to stick to the matter at hand.



Oh dear Another mindless Putinbot. Tell me, how has Russia "achieved more in a few weeks than the US have over many years"? I mean, aside from Russia bombing four hospitals. Russia hasn't even been targeting ISIS, the vast majority of their bombing missions have been against targets in the West of Syria where IS doesn't really operate.

It's also the height of irony to accuse the US of being an ISIS supporter. ISIS' largest source of income is actually the Assad regime; they have an oil supply deal. So by supporting Assad, that basically makes you an ISIS supporter.

Assad is the greatest source of jihadism in the region. It was his revolting suppression of the Arab spring protests in Syria that led to the uprising. And then Assad released thousands of jihadists from prison in late 2011 knowing they would then rise up against him, and he could depict all opponents as terrorists. And now he has a tacit ceasefire with ISIS and has a large oil/electricity deal with them.

"Nothing really is and everything really isn't" Hmm, there's no point in on me backing up my point because your views are clouded up by what the media shoves down our throats on the daily - which isn't your fault
All i know is that ISIS are not Muslims, and what they do is both wrong morally and islamically, disgusting pigs.

Tony Blair admits his role in the encouragement of these terrorist organisations, that's how it's relevant. So I'm not particularly sure why the UK isn't up in that thread title.