Why do the Bremoaners hate Britain so much?

If you are so interested in the truth, you wouldn't be relying on your own assumptions all the time with your argument.

The people (or at least those who bothered enough to vote) had voted with a majority for Brexit - this is the truth.

I don't know where you want to find your own version of the truth, I suspect it might be the echo chamber you live in?

If you are so interested in the truth, you wouldn't be relying on your own assumptions all the time with your argument.

The people (or at least those who bothered enough to vote) had voted with a majority for Brexit - this is the truth.

I don't know where you want to find your own version of the truth, I suspect it might be the echo chamber you live in?

52% to 48% was the result. Does that mean 48% should have to keep their voices eternally silenced? Referendums are non-binding; from my tone I can guess I was pro-remain. However, I accept the decision. The Miller vs Secretary of State for Exiting the E.U. case was simply based on law, and the high court specifically state "they were looking at it from as legal perspective, not at the political pros and cons" in the official decision summary. Since then, the case has been leap-frogged to the Supreme court and they will likely come to the same conclusion. Therefore, it's also the "truth" that May is acting illegally by using a royal prerogative to exit the E.U.

But the "truth" (ie. facts, supported by incontovertible evidence) is that the referendum was a consultative process that is not legally or constitutionally binding. You can bang on about "political suicide" and "the will of the people" and such, as much as you like, it doesn't alter the facts (or "the truth", if you prefer).

Correct.

I think I see your problem now.
You appear to think that by gaining a majority in the referendum, Brexit has a legally and constitutionally binding mandate.
It doesn't.
And that's a fact (sorry, "the truth".
Hope this helped.

That is a political consideration, not a constitutional or legal one. The referendum was constitutionally and legally, only consultative.

You are again missing the point. I never said the referendum is not consultative, I am stating the truth that all mainstream parties intend to uphold Brexit.

Just read over and over again until you understand the distinctions I am stating here. I never said that the referendum is legally binding, so can you start reading what I write because it just makes you a bad debater when you respond to things I have actually stated oppositely.

By saying that the referendum result is not the 'truth' it just shows a lot about your respect for the majority's decision.

However aren't you happy that so many people think differently to you, and that all mainstream parties reject your wish to ignore the mandate? Just a healthy dose of 'truth' for you to digest here.

Technically true, but also meaningless.

Parliament did not consult the people only to ignore the results of that consultation.

What was the point of the consultation in that case?

And are you arguing that there is any constitutional or legal basis for our remaining a member of the EU?
What would that be exactly?

I believe the referendum mandate only concerned whether we leave the EU, it does not extend to the finer terms which should be debated in parliament.

The issue is that some people are saying that the referendum was false and the result is not what people wanted.

It is clear that we have voted for Brexit, this is the truth and I will continue to correct anyone who do not respect the referendum's result despite agreeing to take part in it.

Correct (if we accept a loose definition of "mandate" that implies an adisory element).

The result was what it was, but it is clearly not what millions of people wanted, so it is false (ie. not the truth) to keep referring to "the people". It was only "some of the people" who voted Leave (actually, a minority of the electorate - that is another truth for you).

Why should I respect it? I accept the result as a matter of fact, but that is entirely different to respecting it. I will do everything in my power (and my powers are considerable!) to oppose Brexit.

Is it just me, or did the definition of "respect" change in the last few years? People seem to keep using it as a synonym for "tolerate", "accept", "agree with", etc.

Nope - just checked the OED and it's still ...
"A feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements."
That cannot, by any stretch of even the most fevered imagination, apply to Brexit or the arguments of the Beleavers.

What do you mean by "uphold Brexit"? They may have said that they will not attemp to block it in Parliament (athought it is, after all, just more politicians promises ) , but there is nothing to "uphold" at the moment because the engineers of the Leave vote forgot to make any kind of plan for Brexit itself (presumably because they didn't think that people would be gullible enough to fall for all the lies).

I am also noting that fact that the referendum acts as a mandate for the government to carry out Brexit.[/quote Not according to the High Court, it doesn't.

So we can agree.
1. The referendum was not binding
2. The government does not have the authority to carry out Brexit without Parliament's approval
3. Some politicians have made some promises that you are assuming they will honour.
4. "The People" were lied to about the reasons for, and effects of Brexit (which the CPS are looking into)
5. The same referendum now would likely have the opposite result

I'm having trouble locating this moral high-ground that you seem to think you are occupying.

If you refer to my earlier post, you will see that I acknowledge that fact of the Leave majority in the referendum.

I think you'll find that your previous paragraph (along with most of your posts)contains only assertion, opinion and speculation.

You keep using this word "truth".
I'm not sure that it means what you think it means.

How can it be meaningless if it describes the legal and constitutional status of the referendum. .