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A level chemistry time of flight mass spectrometry questions

I am stuck with these questions, need help:

6. Bromine has 2 principle isotopes, 79Br and 81Br and under standard conditions the element exists as a diatomic molecule. Find the isotope(s) present in the ion with kinetic energy of 4.440 x 10-16 J and a time of flight of
3.524 x 10-5s in a mass spectrometer of drift length 2.050 m.


7. An ionised sample contained the ions 27Al+ and 54Fe+. The 27Al+ ions had a time of flight of 2.345 x 10-5 s. Find the time of flight for the 54Fe + ions.


8. An ionised sample contained the ions 23Na+ which had a time of flight of 1.134 x 10 -5 s and an unkown element X whose ions had a time of flight of 1.689 x 10 -5 s. Find the Ar of the unknown element.
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Reply 2
Hi did you end up getting 1.658x10^-5 for question 7? The answer to question 6 is 79Br and 79 Br. I could send you the working out. No clue about 8
Hey sorry I've just been looking at this. Could you please show how you got the answer to question 7?
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For question 7, because both samples are going through the same flight tube, we can say: KE = KE

Now we can also say: 1/2 mv² = 1/2 mv²

If we rearrange the equation (I've named them 1 and 2, so we know which one is first sample and second sample), we get:
m1/(t1)² = m2/(t2)²

If we substitute our values it will give us:
27/(2.345×10^-10) = 54/(t2)²

We work out that and it gives us:
4.91×10¹⁰ = 54/(t2)²

We can now rearrange this to make (t2)² the subject because we are trying to find the t (time) of the 2nd sample. So this will look like:
(t2)² = 54/4.91×10¹⁰

So this gives us:
(t2)² = 1.1×10^-9

So to find only t2 (without the square) we square root the other side, like this:
t2 = √1.1×10^-9

And if we out it in the calculator (always put brackets so we don't make any mistakes:
t2 = 3.32×10^-5

Therefore, the time of flight of ⁵⁴Fe is 3.32×10^-5 seconds.

Hope it helped :smile: idk how to do the 6th or the 8th but I'm going to try now
Reply 5
Original post by Miongo
Hi did you end up getting 1.658x10^-5 for question 7? The answer to question 6 is 79Br and 79 Br. I could send you the working out. No clue about 8

For question 7, because both samples are going through the same flight tube, we can say: KE = KE

Now we can also say: 1/2 mv² = 1/2 mv²

If we rearrange the equation (I've named them 1 and 2, so we know which one is first sample and second sample), we get:
m1/(t1)² = m2/(t2)²

If we substitute our values it will give us:
27/(2.345×10^-10) = 54/(t2)²

We work out that and it gives us:
4.91×10¹⁰ = 54/(t2)²

We can now rearrange this to make (t2)² the subject because we are trying to find the t (time) of the 2nd sample. So this will look like:
(t2)² = 54/4.91×10¹⁰

So this gives us:
(t2)² = 1.1×10^-9

So to find only t2 (without the square) we square root the other side, like this:
t2 = √1.1×10^-9

And if we out it in the calculator (always put brackets so we don't make any mistakes:
t2 = 3.32×10^-5

Therefore, the time of flight of ⁵⁴Fe is 3.32×10^-5 seconds.

Hope it helped :smile: idk how to do the 6th or the 8th but I'm going to try now
Reply 6
Original post by learn233
I am stuck with these questions, need help:

6. Bromine has 2 principle isotopes, 79Br and 81Br and under standard conditions the element exists as a diatomic molecule. Find the isotope(s) present in the ion with kinetic energy of 4.440 x 10-16 J and a time of flight of
3.524 x 10-5s in a mass spectrometer of drift length 2.050 m.


7. An ionised sample contained the ions 27Al+ and 54Fe+. The 27Al+ ions had a time of flight of 2.345 x 10-5 s. Find the time of flight for the 54Fe + ions.


8. An ionised sample contained the ions 23Na+ which had a time of flight of 1.134 x 10 -5 s and an unkown element X whose ions had a time of flight of 1.689 x 10 -5 s. Find the Ar of the unknown element.


For Question number 6, here is what you have to do:

Ek = 4.440x10^-16 J
distance = 2.050 m
TOF = 3.524 x 10^-5 S

1) find the velocity - as you would need it in the equation for Ek to find the mass:
Velocity = 2.050 / 3.524 x 10^-5 = 58172.53121 m/s

2) Find the mass (kg) by changing the equation:
Ek = 0.5mv^2
4.440x10^-16 = 0.5 x m x (58172.53121)^2
4.440x10^-16 / 0.5 x (58172.53121)^2
=2.624079831x10^-25 kg

3) To find the Mr the equation is m(g) x Avogadro's number.
(2.624079831x10^-25)x1000 = 2.624079831x10^-22 g

4) Find the Mr:
(2.624079831x10^-22) x (6.022x10^23)
= 158.022 = 158 (3sf)

79 Br + 79 Br isotopes add up to make the Mr 158 so it his basically 79Br2
Reply 7
Original post by learn233
I am stuck with these questions, need help:

6. Bromine has 2 principle isotopes, 79Br and 81Br and under standard conditions the element exists as a diatomic molecule. Find the isotope(s) present in the ion with kinetic energy of 4.440 x 10-16 J and a time of flight of
3.524 x 10-5s in a mass spectrometer of drift length 2.050 m.


7. An ionised sample contained the ions 27Al+ and 54Fe+. The 27Al+ ions had a time of flight of 2.345 x 10-5 s. Find the time of flight for the 54Fe + ions.


8. An ionised sample contained the ions 23Na+ which had a time of flight of 1.134 x 10 -5 s and an unkown element X whose ions had a time of flight of 1.689 x 10 -5 s. Find the Ar of the unknown element.


For Question 8 you basically do the same as question 7!

Na+ ions = TOF of 1.32x10^-5 s
Na+ ions = Mr of 23

X (unknown) ions = TOF of 1.689x10^-5s
X (unknown) ions = Mr of ?
1) Ke = Ke because the isotopes are accelerated to the same speed.
1/2mv^2 = 1/2mv^2

You have to substitute your values into the equation. The 1/2 in both equations cancel out. Because we don't have velocity we will divide the mass (which we will consider to be the Mr) with TOF^2

23/(1.132 x 10^-5)^2 = m of x / (1.689 x 10^-5)^2

1.78855 x 10^11 = m/(1.689 x 10^-5)^2

You know how to multiply by (1.689 x 10^-5)^2 to get 'm' alone.


m = (1.78855 x 10^11) x (1.689 x 10^-5)^2
m = 51.022... = 51 (2sf)

51 is the Ar of the unknown element!

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