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Original post by legalhelp
Hi everyone. I found a lot of useful information on this forum when I started my legal career, so I thought it was time to offer help in return if I can. I know crime is an area many students are interested in, so let me know if you have any questions about it. There are other fantastically qualified and experienced people on this forum, but I have a somewhat unique perspective on things because I have been both a solicitor and a barrister. Some initial caveats. I would prefer for obvious reasons not to say where I currently work or where I have worked, or to talk about how much I am paid! But I know pay in crime is an area many will have questions about, so I can answer in general terms. It has also been a while since I did either of the professional courses, so my knowledge on that front is probably quite out of date. But again, I can offer general help, and talk about the more day-to-day aspects of criminal work. I hope this is a useful thread for anyone considering a career in criminal law. It’s not for everyone, but personally I think it’s the best job in the world.


hi :smile: i wanna do criminology A-level, do you think this is a good idea? will it be hard or boring? thanks! Good morning all
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Original post by alb1999
I know a similar question has already answered but I already have my undergrad degree in Law. If I know that I would like to work in Criminal Law, would you recommend a Masters in Law or Criminology? Also how beneficial do you believe a Masters is to careers in law?

Hi, great that your considering a career in this area. Do you have any sense of what exactly you would like to do? Do you see yourself at the bar, working as a solicitor, or something else? Let me know as this will help inform my response to your question.
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Original post by cheese toes
hi :smile: i wanna do criminology A-level, do you think this is a good idea? will it be hard or boring? thanks! Good morning all

Hello. I’m afraid I didn’t do this A level, or even law A level, so I’m not sure. It might be hard, but I love this area so I can’t imagine it would be boring! The only thing I would say is if you’re keen on becoming a lawyer, at this stage of your life you should prioritise getting good grades, so choose subjects that will maximise your chances in that regard.
@legalhelp - what kind of crime did you work in? High Street volume type stuff, of specialist crime?
are you able to share with us what kind of crime you committed ?

:holmes:
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Original post by Trinculo
@legalhelp - what kind of crime did you work in? High Street volume type stuff, of specialist crime?

I can’t say too much about that because it would be a bit of a giveaway, but I have done a good mix of ‘knockabout’ general crime, and more specialised financial crime.
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Original post by the bear
are you able to share with us what kind of crime you committed ?

:holmes:

If I told you that, I’d have to kill you, and then I’d be up on two charges instead of one. So no.
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Original post by legalhelp
Hi, great that your considering a career in this area. Do you have any sense of what exactly you would like to do? Do you see yourself at the bar, working as a solicitor, or something else? Let me know as this will help inform my response to your question.


Hi, thank you for getting back to me! I see myself at the bar at the moment, and I definitely think that is what I'd like to pursue, although I'm not opposed to a career as a solicitor.
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Original post by alb1999
Hi, thank you for getting back to me! I see myself at the bar at the moment, and I definitely think that is what I'd like to pursue, although I'm not opposed to a career as a solicitor.

Great, thank you for clarifying. If you are really determined to do a masters then I don’t think it would do you any harm at all, if your eventual aim is to apply for pupillage. However if you’re on the fence, and the main reason you’re considering the masters is to get more experience in crime and/or to demonstrate your interest in this area of law, then I think there are probably more productive (and less expensive!) ways to spend that time. Doing paralegal work for a year at a criminal firm is not the most exciting I have to admit, but it gets your foot in the door in terms of contacts, and you’ll get some practical experience. If you want to do something different, take a look at web profiles of junior members of chambers at the sorts of criminal sets you want to apply to. You’ll see people have done all sorts of interesting work: internships at the ECHR, work for the Law Commission, judicial shadowing, etc. People probably have different views about the value of a masters when applying for pupillage, but personally I think this kind of practical experience is not only more useful to you, but also makes you stand out more when it comes to applications.
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Im 16 due to pick a levels am wanting to go into law 70/30 engineering i want to pick law criminology and maths and then if my mind changes will switch criminology for physics,or shud i take maths physics and law,im certain i want to go into law
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Original post by Yus745
Im 16 due to pick a levels am wanting to go into law 70/30 engineering i want to pick law criminology and maths and then if my mind changes will switch criminology for physics,or shud i take maths physics and law,im certain i want to go into law


Hi there. Sorry I am a bit confused. Do you mean you are 70/30 about whether to go into law/engineering? And your current plan is to study maths, criminology and law at A level? If your plan is to go into law, then I would suggest you study more “traditional” subjects, and that you include at least one essay-based subject. So, for example, maths, physics and an essay subject. I did not do either law or criminology at A level and am not in a position to comment on either, but I can say that if you are dead set on a career in law, a subject like history, economics or English would probably be more highly valued than either law or criminology. You really don’t need to do a law-related A level to get into and do well in law after school.
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Original post by legalhelp
Hi there. Sorry I am a bit confused. Do you mean you are 70/30 about whether to go into law/engineering? And your current plan is to study maths, criminology and law at A level? If your plan is to go into law, then I would suggest you study more “traditional” subjects, and that you include at least one essay-based subject. So, for example, maths, physics and an essay subject. I did not do either law or criminology at A level and am not in a position to comment on either, but I can say that if you are dead set on a career in law, a subject like history, economics or English would probably be more highly valued than either law or criminology. You really don’t need to do a law-related A level to get into and do well in law after school.

Is there any way to get in without essay based subject as im.not really wanting to go into that,also do you like your job,wats pay like,hours,what city you from,
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Original post by Yus745
Is there any way to get in without essay based subject as im.not really wanting to go into that,also do you like your job,wats pay like,hours,what city you from,


If you are not interested in doing essay-based subjects, what is it exactly that makes you think you would be suited to a career in law? Absolutely no judgement, and not meant to be a patronising question, I am asking out of genuine interest.
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Original post by legalhelp
If you are not interested in doing essay-based subjects, what is it exactly that makes you think you would be suited to a career in law? Absolutely no judgement, and not meant to be a patronising question, I am asking out of genuine interest.

I understand your question,reasonable,i wudnt mind doing essay based subjects but how necessary would it be,i will probably apply for law criminology and maths,and if i change my mind will switch criminology for physics,wat do law degrees look for
Reply 34
Others will be able to chime in if they disagree, but I would say pretty necessary. But more to the point, if you don’t really enjoy reading long(ish) texts, research and essay writing, then there’s a good chance you will not enjoy a law degree, and a decent chance you won’t enjoy being a lawyer. I’d like to get to the bottom of what it is exactly that interests you about law, before you make A level choices (particularly law) that are geared towards a degree and a career you might not like. So for that reason I’ll ask the question again - what is it exactly that makes you want to be a lawyer?
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I would say being able to have knowledge of law,being able to serve justice understand why people did what they did and be able to advise people etc
Reply 36
To the first question: yes (luckily it doesn’t really matter what I think). To the second: no, not really.
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Original post by Yus745
I would say being able to have knowledge of law,being able to serve justice understand why people did what they did and be able to advise people etc


Alright. I think you should probably have a closer look at the work a lawyer does before you choose A levels with that goal in mind. I can’t give you careers advice, but personally I think you would be far, far better off taking the most general subjects possible, where you are likely to get the best grades. That will serve you in better stead in any legal career than either law or criminology (neither of which are necessary or even desirable to be a lawyer). I would also look into careers in the field of criminology: law enforcement; forensics; intelligence gathering services (look for example at the work the NCA does). You might find these areas more interesting to you than law if you don’t fundamentally enjoy reading and essay writing. People may not realise this but criminology, at A level and degree level, doesn’t really have any relevance to the field of criminal legal practice.
Reply 38
A rare moment of appreciation! On behalf of the whole coven: we are grateful.
Reply 39
He would have thats what laws all about,thats why you cant let your own thoughts compromise the case

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