The Arsenal Thread XXVI

You guys got havertz as well. great depth meanwhile Chelsea are trying to do a season with one first team midfielder.

Over the past three summers, Arsenal's net spend exceeds £400m, outstripping everyone, including Chelsea, given they are in profit during the current close season and were two years ago, with the dramatic splurge in between.

Ours is generated inherently from us being massive, not just laundered Russian $$$ though

Pre-tax losses of £226mil in the last 3 years..

It's obviously being funded by Kroenke or through burning through previous cash resources or mortgaging your future to spend today. It's not sustaintable unless you start winning PL and CLs regularly.

Big or not, it's still excessive spending.

Football is big business, if you're poking fun at Chelsea for spending, then we probably should have some humour at our own expense. Arsenal are not far from Chelsea standard spending wise currently that's for sure, oil money or something different.

Arsenal are massive bro. Literally could fill 100,000 seats most weeks

We've little debt and the youngest squad in the league. In 5 years time you could literally be looking at an XI of

Ramsdale, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko, Rice, Harvetz, Odegaard, Saka, Jesus, Martanelli

So its a calculated bet, get a team together that will not need much future investment. It'll be spread over the next decade

Absolutely no pressure to win anything, we'll fund it from our revenue

Still not as big as Man Utd or Liverpool. Basically in the popularity league with the likes of Chelsea and Spurs.

I think Arsenal debt (owned to Kroenke) was like almost £250mil in the last set of accounts so today's figure will be even higher. Wouldn't be surprised if it was £300-400mil at this point.

Fans always look at stuff optimistically. 5 years ago, everyone would've said Dele Alli would be a star player for the next 10 years but players are human and you can't control how quickly things can change. Some will become better, some will stall, some will lose careers to injury (see Wilshere). You'd be surprised how much that XI will change in 5 years time.

Real Madrid have been doing this policy to great effect - buying the young stars who will become future world class players but they buy at the top end of the market (and often in South America) and even then players like Odegaard and Luka Jovic have flopped for them.

Well it would mean not buying or investing as much into the club in the future. Can you imagine the AFTV reaction when Arsenal don't spend £150-200mil+ in summers 2024 and 2025?

He's confirmed to be a 6.

That's a terrible bait

Havertz, a CL winner in last 3 years and a £65m player is not even in our XI bro
Balogun scored 25 goals in Ligue 1 last season and is linked with £50m moves
Trossard youve mentioned

I havent even mentioned Pepe (lol)

This + Smith Rowe, Vieira, Nketiah, Nelson

and that's BACK UP

You guys got havertz as well. great depth meanwhile Chelsea are trying to do a season with one first team midfielder.

How much you want to bet ? Obviously I need to say what happens with Man City, but with Champions League football I am concerned for Arsenal.

Nketiah, Balogun, Nelson and Smith-Rowe are all very average and wouldn’t start for mid-table teams.

Trossard is very good. I think you should buy an out and out striker unless Balogun is that guy (I don’t know much about him).

I hope for you guys that Trossard is rotated on both the left and right wing rather than just the left. Saka will have to be rested. He fell off massively towards the end of last season. Reiss Nelson just isn’t that guy.


Who finishes higher: Tottenham or Chelsea?

Who finishes higher: Tottenham or Chelsea?

Arsenal are very much comparible with Liverpool in terms of global fanbase and revenue streams, dont kid yourself.

Big or not, it's still excessive spending.

Football is big business, if you're poking fun at Chelsea for spending, then we probably should have some humour at our own expense. Arsenal are not far from Chelsea standard spending wise currently that's for sure, oil money or something different.

Nketiah, Balogun, Nelson and Smith-Rowe are all very average and wouldn’t start for mid-table teams.

Your revenue streams have been lower than Spurs over the last 5 years.

@bj27 please confirm which club is more supported.

Liverpool's €275mil in commercial revenues compared to Arsenal's €167mil reported in the last Deloitte Money League is a quick reference to show that Arsenal aren't as attractive.

The nature of the spending just isn't the same though and Chelsea have been criticised more for their strategy rather than the how much. They were praised if anything for their work arounds on contracts with the whole amortisation thing as well. It's not directly comparable.

They are very average but won't start any games either unless forced to. Jury is still out on Nelson tbh, whenever he came on he showed impact but Arteta really should have rotated him more into the squad.

You keep mentioning that we are below our rivals in terms of financial power but then why are Liverpool penny pinching over midfielders and UTD just charged with FFP breaches??

Why weren't UTD able to buy Rice instead of trying to bargain with them in a 2 for 1 deal

Bit of a doomed if we do and doomed if we don't situation. Everyone pointed at us for not being able to compete because we don't spend like our rivals. All of a sudden we spend like our rivals and it's not sustainable. Outside of City this is probably the club in the best position in terms of sustainability compared to our rivals. Liverpool might bring in more revenue but you want your owners out and UTD aren't in a position of power either. Spurs are being replaced by Newcastle in the big 6.

Either way football is finished when all of these ghost teams buy out players and then loan them back to their clubs to circumvent FFP. Chelsea have started it already with Strasbourg, I heard Newcastle are looking to do a similar thing

Money and football went down the *****er a long time ago, these discussions are meaningless

Your revenue streams have been lower than Spurs over the last 5 years.

@bj27 please confirm which club is more supported.

Liverpool's €275mil in commercial revenues compared to Arsenal's €167mil reported in the last Deloitte Money League is a quick reference to show that Arsenal aren't as attractive.

Your revenue streams have been lower than Spurs over the last 5 years.

@bj27 please confirm which club is more supported.

Liverpool's €275mil in commercial revenues compared to Arsenal's €167mil reported in the last Deloitte Money League is a quick reference to show that Arsenal aren't as attractive.

There are hardly two teams more comparible in terms of revenue than Arsenal/Liverpool. You're higher when in the CL and we're not, and vice versa. Similar number of fans, you can dice that through instigram/facebook/twitter. Albeit I will bet Liverpool tickets are somewhat easier to come by, the blue balls amongst Arsenal fans in London is very very high and there are loads of us.

Bearing in mind Liverpool have been very well run, and Arsenal very badly run (until recently I hope!) and the CL revenues and there is little difference. Liverpool fans have this absurd habit of trying to elevate themselves above other clubs. You are about as comparible with Arsenal as any club on earth.

There's no shame in being amongst good old Arsenal of the Marble Halls N5...