If Brexiters are so confident of victory then should they accept a second referendum?

I'm fed up of Brexiters harping on about democracy and that there should not be a second referendum.

Well if they are so confident of Britians hatred of the EU and so passionate about democracy then they should relish a second referendum.

But the reality is Brexiters are Scared of losing. They know fine well that a lot of Brexit voters now regret what they did. Many thought it would never happen. So take them aside.
Then among the Brexit voters are some realists who never thought of the mess that we are now in that soon all that may be left of the Great Britain they love is England totally on its own, without Scotland or NI or the protection of the EU. Take them aside and you've probably got less than 40% pro Brexit and over 60% remain.

Of that 40% you've got mostly retired people who arn't worried about recessions, unemployment or loss of EU funding of vocational training and further education, that's around 20% And of course nationalists and small minded racist bigots making up the rest.

We want a second referendum, its in the interests of the majority!

I'm fed up of Brexiters harping on about democracy and that there should not be a second referendum.

Well if they are so confident of Britians hatred of the EU and so passionate about democracy then they should relish a second referendum.

But the reality is Brexiters are Scared of losing. They know fine well that a lot of Brexit voters now regret what they did. Many thought it would never happen. So take them aside.
Then among the Brexit voters are some realists who never thought of the mess that we are now in that soon all that may be left of the Great Britain they love is England totally on its own, without Scotland or NI or the protection of the EU. Take them aside and you've probably got less than 40% pro Brexit and over 60% remain.

Of that 40% you've got mostly retired people who arn't worried about recessions, unemployment or loss of EU funding of vocational training and further education, that's around 20% And of course nationalists and small minded racist bigots making up the rest.

We want a second referendum, its in the interests of the majority!

IF there is a second referendum, there will be riots.
A new Prime Minister has already been appointed because the previous one accepted defeat of an overall Brexit result.
The government has also stated that there will be a debate, but NO second referendum.

Lets face it, you Remainers (or should we say Remoaners?) have lost. Get over it and stop crying like a baby. Try and deal with the changes that has already been made. We can't turn back time and change the past more than we would like to!

But one thing is that a small proportion of Brexit voters (not all) but some comprise of racist bigots, ultra right wing fanatics and Stormfront members.

There are none of these racist people in the remain camp. We support multiculturalism.

That should be enough to make moderate Brexiters distance themselves from Brexit camp and its unsavoury members.

Racism and hate crime has increased since Brexit claimed a massive majority victory of a huge 4% (or what they think is a major victory)

A question for anyone calling for a revote.
You say 52 to 48 wasn't a big enough gap, what if a revote comes back at 51 to ,49?
Another vote?
Best of three?
How about if it is the other way round and remainers win 52 to 48?
Will that suddenly become big enough?
Do you keep going until you get what you want?

Would you, having already survived the first revolver barrel in Russian roulette, willing prove your bravery by going for the second and third barrels?

Of that 40% you've got mostly retired people who arn't worried about recessions, unemployment or loss of EU funding of vocational training and further education, that's around 20% And of course nationalists and small minded racist bigots making up the rest.

We want a second referendum, its in the interests of the majority!

I'm fed up of Brexiters harping on about democracy and that there should not be a second referendum.

Well if they are so confident of Britians hatred of the EU and so passionate about democracy then they should relish a second referendum.

But the reality is Brexiters are Scared of losing. They know fine well that a lot of Brexit voters now regret what they did. Many thought it would never happen. So take them aside.
Then among the Brexit voters are some realists who never thought of the mess that we are now in that soon all that may be left of the Great Britain they love is England totally on its own, without Scotland or NI or the protection of the EU. Take them aside and you've probably got less than 40% pro Brexit and over 60% remain.

Of that 40% you've got mostly retired people who arn't worried about recessions, unemployment or loss of EU funding of vocational training and further education, that's around 20% And of course nationalists and small minded racist bigots making up the rest.

We want a second referendum, its in the interests of the majority!

I'm fed up of Brexiters harping on about democracy and that there should not be a second referendum.


Well if they are so confident of Britians hatred of the EU and so passionate about democracy then they should relish a second referendum.

But the reality is Brexiters are Scared of losing. They know fine well that a lot of Brexit voters now regret what they did. Many thought it would never happen. So take them aside.
Then among the Brexit voters are some realists who never thought of the mess that we are now in that soon all that may be left of the Great Britain they love is England totally on its own, without Scotland or NI or the protection of the EU. Take them aside and you've probably got less than 40% pro Brexit and over 60% remain.

Of that 40% you've got mostly retired people who arn't worried about recessions, unemployment or loss of EU funding of vocational training and further education, that's around 20% And of course nationalists and small minded racist bigots making up the rest.

We want a second referendum, its in the interests of the majority!

I'm fed up of Brexiters harping on about democracy and that there should not be a second referendum.

Well if they are so confident of Britians hatred of the EU and so passionate about democracy then they should relish a second referendum.

But the reality is Brexiters are Scared of losing. They know fine well that a lot of Brexit voters now regret what they did. Many thought it would never happen. So take them aside.
Then among the Brexit voters are some realists who never thought of the mess that we are now in that soon all that may be left of the Great Britain they love is England totally on its own, without Scotland or NI or the protection of the EU. Take them aside and you've probably got less than 40% pro Brexit and over 60% remain.

Of that 40% you've got mostly retired people who arn't worried about recessions, unemployment or loss of EU funding of vocational training and further education, that's around 20% And of course nationalists and small minded racist bigots making up the rest.

We want a second referendum, its in the interests of the majority!

Yes and there are also people that don't want and want a 2nd referendum. So maybe you should accept that as well if you "accept" democracy.

I'm fed up of Brexiters harping on about democracy and that there should not be a second referendum.

Well if they are so confident of Britians hatred of the EU and so passionate about democracy then they should relish a second referendum.

But the reality is Brexiters are Scared of losing. They know fine well that a lot of Brexit voters now regret what they did. Many thought it would never happen. So take them aside.
Then among the Brexit voters are some realists who never thought of the mess that we are now in that soon all that may be left of the Great Britain they love is England totally on its own, without Scotland or NI or the protection of the EU. Take them aside and you've probably got less than 40% pro Brexit and over 60% remain.

Of that 40% you've got mostly retired people who arn't worried about recessions, unemployment or loss of EU funding of vocational training and further education, that's around 20% And of course nationalists and small minded racist bigots making up the rest.

We want a second referendum, its in the interests of the majority!

a lot of those who voted Brexit now regret that they did

If Remain had won narrowly you can be sure Leavers would be pushing for a second referendum.

Nigel Farage would have claimed it as a major step forward for nearly half the country to be rejecting the EU and would continue to campaign.

The difference is the timescales. Leavers would be realistic, they wouldn't get a referendum in 2 years, they would be looking at the time of the next EU treaty or a 10 to 15 year timescale. Remainers want a referendum before we leave the EU which means next couple of years - unlikely to happen.

The 10 to 15 year timescale is more relevant for a "rejoin" referendum, which may seem unimaginable at the moment but it would come back on the agenda if basically these three things happened:

1. The closer integration of the Eurozone countries makes the Euro finally work and the EU enjoys improved fortunes.
2. The UK struggles outside the EU and goes in to a period of stagnation.
3. The Conservatives stay in power for most of that period, and the political pendulum is ripe for a 1997 style shift towards a reformed Labour party or a Lab/Lib Dem coalition both of whom are campaigning on a ticket of rejoining the EU.

In this case you could see a new UK government saying look Brexit didn't work, it's time to reintegrate with Europe.

Reintegrating with Europe would mean different terms - we'd have to commit (in the longer term) to joining the Euro, wouldn't have the opt outs and vetos that we do now. But the EU would probably be more favourable to the idea of expanding again by bringing the UK back in, than it is to us now, so may be more willing to be generous in terms of what it offers us.

By that point the demographics of the population will have changed - some of the older Leave voters will be replaced by the disillusioned pro-EU generation and it may be harder to defeat a Rejoin referendum than Leavers may think now - especially if the sunny uplands of UK outside the EU haven't materialised and people are saying why have Ireland, France etc done better than us.

The one big area which I cannot help but find unlikely, is scenario where the EU performs better than the UK.