After reading your post and the replies I have a few pointers and my own views. Firstly, I am only fairly young (23) yet I have had long term relationships since a very young age the last resulting in my partner of 5 years cheating on me with a 30 year old who was engaged, thus damaging self esteem, self confidence etc... I am now with a lovely, very attractive boy for about a year now. At first there was a lot of shyness on both parts and self confidence issues even to he point it was about a month before he could even kiss me. By this point I started to think he wasn't interested. But slowly the awkward sex started and I thought this is it, really? He has a reputation for being a bit of a lad and can not name the amount of people he has slept with therefore u can imagine how I thought it was all me. I am fairly adventurous once I relax and like most girls when it is offered will not turn it down. Granted i don't initiate it in the way most men would like, baring in mind most men do not get the subtle hints anyways then just coz they dive on in they reckon it's them who have started it. However after a few months into the relationship I found a pron website on his iPad and I just felt instantly sick. By this point we knew we loved each other, had sex most nights and were more relaxed with each other in most ways. My question is, and I have read this so many times, why does he feel the need to start and touch him self to other women when I am there practically laying it on a plate next to him? Men seriously do not know what this does to a woman's confidence and they can not say that they don't think, why does my girlfriend do that or look like that etc.. It's lies. When I was in my teens I was guilty of looking at it a touch but found it so fake and derogatory. The issue I also have is the double standards. Men seem to have apron lemming putting the shoe on the other foot. If you truly love your partner then only u want to be the person who touches them and makes them feel like the do during sex. So if your girlfriend was there touching herself while staring at a naked man who may or may not be like you this would upset you? Make u think u arnt preforming and the play on your mind during sex? I'm sure it would effect performance. I completely accept if it is to educate yourself and then try it with your partner every once in a while yes but to do it for self gratification when half of men probably leave there partners in satisfied completely after sex then have at audacity to still seek more self pleasure is something I can not understand. Personally 3 times a night most nights would be right enough so i can't be called anything. And men tho complain they do it coz they don't get enough from their partner obviously arnt doing it right in the first place because of its work it most girls most of the time will want to. It's only becomes a chore when the standard is so poor. I take personal offence when I am readily available and will try most thing when I am left intl half satisfied and then find him getting a kick out of staying at another naked girl and having the same physical experience he does with me. That is something we share and do together and not imagine someone else. Men are physical and visual being so why not have the real thing if it is available instead of damaging your girlfriends self confidence and esteem? After all if you loved her and cared about her feelings u just wouldn't do do especially if u could empathise if the shoe was on the other foot