Legal alternative to mace or pepper spray?

It was in London, on a well lit street with lots of people around.

If you're carrying it with the intention of hurting someone then its very not legal. It is an item intended to be used as an offensive weapon. If you're carrying salt water then its obviously not for drinking so what legitimate reason do you have for carrying it? I'm talking about shear theory here but you're committing a crime. For the police proving that would be somewhat harder unless you said the wrong thing if its a sports bottle. If its a spray bottle, the kind used for house plants or similar then could be argued that you're carrying a firearm in the meaning of section 5 firearms act; "any weapon of whatever description designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas or other thing." Even as a sports bottle it could be argued at the very least you're carrying an offensive weapon if not a firearm.

Maglite, it could be used to smack someone round the head but at the same time its also very useful for illuminating dark places. Therefore it is not an intended offensive weapon provided that you don't intend to hit anyone with it. How ever if you had it for the purpose of illuminating dark places and you were attacked then you could use it and claim instant arming. How ever again you're running the risk, especially if you don't know how to use such a weapon of having it removed from you and used against you. Remember as well you may only use reasonable force and its a legally complicated area. Remember if the force used is deemed to be unreasonable then you're looking at arrest and being charged with assault, most likely assault occasioning actual bodily harm maybe even GBH if you don't hit where you intended and really hurt the person.

Stoppa red et al is pretty above board. It was considered a grey area until recently. We now have a bit more case law to go on. How ever using it is legally more complex. If you use force against another the use of that force has to be lawful. I suggest you have a look at section 3 criminal law act which is the provision for use of reasonable force in this country, in relation to both this and the maglite. Police and civilians alike can use this legislation. If you were to use it unlawfully, and it was not used proportionately you'd be looking at being arrested and charged with assault and criminal damage.

I'd recommend a personal attack alarm. They make a hell of a noise and most would be robbers hate them because they are well aware that there could now be a lot of witnesses.

If you feel threatened by someone, phone the police. usually the blue lights send neer do wells scattering.

Remember carrying any object with the intent to use it as a weapon is a criminal offence.

Yes, I know, I was joking.

Hilarious

Hire me. I will be your protector.

/whiteknight.

personally I couldn't give two hoots for the law.

Its a stupid system and I'd rather do time than get assaulted.

I follow the old saying of Malcolm X.

" By any means necessary ".

Why should we show the criminals any respect when they don't show the victim any. If I saw the attack the victim just described I would beat the living hell out of the person committing the offence regardless of the consequences.

If I was PM that's the first law I'd change along with scrapping human rights for criminals.

Thanks guys- I don't want to actually carry a weapon, it's just that given that I'm a 5ft 2 girl I'd like some way to know that I'm ok, especially given that I've hurt my foot and back, meaning that running isn't really an option. Also calling the police probably wouldn't have worked given that the guy was easily within earshot and it all happened in the space of a minute or two. However, the rape alarm is probably a good idea since those things are LOUD so I'll probably invest!

personally I couldn't give two hoots for the law.

Its a stupid system and I'd rather do time than get assaulted.

I follow the old saying of Malcolm X.

" By any means necessary ".

Why should we show the criminals any respect when they don't show the victim any. If I saw the attack the victim just described I would beat the living hell out of the person committing the offence regardless of the consequences.

If I was PM that's the first law I'd change along with scrapping human rights for criminals.

Sorry to be completely off-topic, but where's your sig from?
It's really creepy...

Remember carrying any object with the intent to use it as a weapon is a criminal offence.

I swear every thread he posts on someone asks that question haha. Also don't watch the full video, it's horrible!

Hah sorry, it looks really scary but I'm intrigued to know where it's from.

That's not strictly true.

If you're carrying it with the intention of hurting someone then its very not legal. It is an item intended to be used as an offensive weapon. If you're carrying salt water then its obviously not for drinking so what legitimate reason do you have for carrying it? I'm talking about shear theory here but you're committing a crime. For the police proving that would be somewhat harder unless you said the wrong thing if its a sports bottle. If its a spray bottle, the kind used for house plants or similar then could be argued that you're carrying a firearm in the meaning of section 5 firearms act; "any weapon of whatever description designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas or other thing." Even as a sports bottle it could be argued at the very least you're carrying an offensive weapon if not a firearm.

Maglite, it could be used to smack someone round the head but at the same time its also very useful for illuminating dark places. Therefore it is not an intended offensive weapon provided that you don't intend to hit anyone with it. How ever if you had it for the purpose of illuminating dark places and you were attacked then you could use it and claim instant arming. How ever again you're running the risk, especially if you don't know how to use such a weapon of having it removed from you and used against you. Remember as well you may only use reasonable force and its a legally complicated area. Remember if the force used is deemed to be unreasonable then you're looking at arrest and being charged with assault, most likely assault occasioning actual bodily harm maybe even GBH if you don't hit where you intended and really hurt the person.

Stoppa red et al is pretty above board. It was considered a grey area until recently. We now have a bit more case law to go on. How ever using it is legally more complex. If you use force against another the use of that force has to be lawful. I suggest you have a look at section 3 criminal law act which is the provision for use of reasonable force in this country, in relation to both this and the maglite. Police and civilians alike can use this legislation. If you were to use it unlawfully, and it was not used proportionately you'd be looking at being arrested and charged with assault and criminal damage.