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Axion's C2 questions

Hi guys,

got a c2 exam in less than 2 weeks, and really not understanding the methodology involved with doing well in some questions.
If its ok, i'll dedicate this thread to my queries rather than to clog up the board.

- The graph of y=a(b^x) passes through (1,6) and (2,3.6). Find the values of a and b

I logged both sides to get logy = log a + xlogb and then input the coordinates given to form two separate equations:

log6 = loga + logb
log3.6 = loga + 2logb

Where do I go from here?

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Reply 1
logs aren't my strong point:frown: but you can solve this one without them.

6 = a(b1)
3.6 = ab2

I wouldn't take logs to start with, mash the algebra around a bit first and only introduce logs when you need to.
Reply 2
HMm, its just as I said I dont quite get the emthodology but my first instinct was to log it and it must be possible my way.

Answers are a = 10 and b =0.6

But how do I get them?
Reply 3
Original post by Axion
Hi guys,

got a c2 exam in less than 2 weeks, and really not understanding the methodology involved with doing well in some questions.
If its ok, i'll dedicate this thread to my queries rather than to clog up the board.

- The graph of y=a(b^x) passes through (1,6) and (2,3.6). Find the values of a and b

I logged both sides to get logy = log a + xlogb and then input the coordinates given to form two separate equations:

log6 = loga + logb
log3.6 = loga + 2logb

Where do I go from here?


You have got 2 equations.

log6=loga+logb(1)log3.6=loga+logb2(2) log6 = loga + logb \longrightarrow (1) \\ log3.6=loga+logb^2 \longrightarrow (2)

Subtract both equations,
log6log3.6=loga+logblogalogb2 log6-log3.6 = loga + logb - loga-logb^2

Remember, logclogd=log(cd) \displaystyle logc - logd = log\left(\frac{c}{d} \right)

Do you get it?
Reply 4
6 = ab
3.6 = ab2


a=b/6 (from 1)

3.6 = (b/6)(b2) (substituting for a in 2)
or you can divide equation (2) by (1)

if you must use logs, raheem's solution looks great
Reply 5
Original post by Axion
HMm, its just as I said I dont quite get the emthodology but my first instinct was to log it and it must be possible my way.

Answers are a = 10 and b =0.6

But how do I get them?


Yes you can do it using logs as Raheem has showed you but you should understand that you can solve the equations quite easily without using logs.

Look at the equations given by Sputum. If you multiply the first one by b you get

6b=ab2\displaystyle 6b = ab^2

Now if you compare this with the second equation, it should be clear that

6b=3.6\displaystyle 6b=3.6

It's simple from here.
You don't even need logs for this..

6 = ab ==> a = 6/b (*)
3.6 = ab^2 (2)

substituting (*) into (2)

3.6 = (6/b)(b^2)

so 3.6 = 6b^2/b then its easy to solve for b, then sub into (*) to get a.


edit : too slow
Reply 7
thanks
Reply 8
Sorry guys, im still confused.

I understand 6=ab and 3.6 = ab^2

But from this how do you work out a and b?
Original post by Axion
Sorry guys, im still confused.

I understand 6=ab and 3.6 = ab^2

But from this how do you work out a and b?


a = 6/b

does this help?
Substitute a = 6/b into the second equation :smile:

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my LT18i
Reply 11
Original post by Axion
Sorry guys, im still confused.

I understand 6=ab and 3.6 = ab^2

But from this how do you work out a and b?


You have been given enough hints, so now i am going to write a solution for you.

6=ab    6b=a(1) \displaystyle 6=ab \implies \frac{6}{b} = a \longrightarrow (1)

3.6=ab2(2) \displaystyle 3.6=ab^2 \longrightarrow (2)

Sub (1) in (2),

3.6=ab2    3.6=6b×b2    3.6=6b    b=0.6 \displaystyle 3.6=ab^2 \implies 3.6=\frac6{b} \times b^2 \implies 3.6=6b \implies b=0.6

Sub b=0.6 in (1),
a=6b=60.6=10 \displaystyle a= \frac{6}{b} = \frac6{0.6} = 10

Do you finally understand it?
Reply 12
ok so 3.6 = (6/b) x b^2
I understand and have done this step but the problem lies where to go next :/

brain is slow this morning.
Original post by Axion
ok so 3.6 = (6/b) x b^2
I understand and have done this step but the problem lies where to go next :/

brain is slow this morning.


You've been given the solution above by raheem
Reply 14
Raheem thanks for your help.

I didnt know that 6/b x b^2 can be written as 6b
Original post by Axion
Raheem thanks for your help.

I didnt know that 6/b x b^2 can be written as 6b


You might want to review fractions and substitutions again. It will only help you further!
Reply 16
Original post by boromir9111
You might want to review fractions and substitutions again. It will only help you further!


Lol I won't dwell on that - just realised its so blatently obvious.
Reply 17
Original post by Axion
Raheem thanks for your help.

I didnt know that 6/b x b^2 can be written as 6b


6b×b2=6b2b=6×b2b=6×b2×b1=6b21=6b \displaystyle \frac6{b} \times b^2 = \frac{6b^2}{b} = 6 \times \frac{b^2}{b} = 6 \times b^2 \times b^{-1} = 6b^{2-1} = 6b
Reply 18
thanks raheem - you've been a gem.
Reply 19
Original post by Axion
thanks raheem - you've been a gem.


No problem, you are welcome.

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