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Edexcel igcse biology may 2012 exam discussion

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Reply 780
Original post by own
I totally agree with this. You also have the people from overseas taking in January as there school years are different, and I bet they do better than us haha...Personally, I didn't find this the hardest paper, however It was probably one of the most vague/awkwardly questioned one, and for a lot of questions I have heard a lot answers...so hopefully I think it will be around the 144-146 region.


The grade boundary as a SET rule is always lower in resits, atleast thats what we got told. Many people found this paper easy actually but it was awkward, it doesn't mean grade boundaries will shoot down.
damn i think i really bombed both papers :s-smilie:

hope i can grab atleast a B.. im more of a physics person :tongue:
Original post by sahajkaur
The grade boundary as a SET rule is always lower in resits, atleast thats what we got told. Many people found this paper easy actually but it was awkward, it doesn't mean grade boundaries will shoot down.


Just a theory : It is fair to say people that are resitting an exam have done more revision than they would have done revising for the real thing. Thus they will be more prepared as a collective group than the initial group of candidates on account of time spent on revision. Therefore surely they would do better in a paper that is of the same difficulty as the one they sat in the summer thus raising the grade boundary instead of lowering it. Of course this is based on generalisation but I think it is justifiable to assume people doing a resit want to do better and thus do more revision.
Reply 783
Original post by sahajkaur
The grade boundary as a SET rule is always lower in resits, atleast thats what we got told. Many people found this paper easy actually but it was awkward, it doesn't mean grade boundaries will shoot down.


Well I don't think you can really make such a set rule, seeing as the first paper In the 2009 specification was it not taken last june? Given to this only two exams have been taken! With only a 1.6% difference in each..
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Reply 784
Original post by Umackjiggles
Just a theory : It is fair to say people that are resitting an exam have done more revision than they would have done revising for the real thing. Thus they will be more prepared as a collective group than the initial group of candidates on account of time spent on revision. Therefore surely they would do better in a paper that is of the same difficulty as the one they sat in the summer thus raising the grade boundary instead of lowering it. Of course this is based on generalisation but I think it is justifiable to assume people doing a resit want to do better and thus do more revision.


Yeah it seems weird that the exact opposite thing seems to happen but some resits also happen in Summer so you never know. A lot of people resat the biology exam with us first timers. Well that's the theory of our biology staff anyway I'm no expert i can't say :smile: But I feel it will be higher.

Original post by own
Well I don't think you can really make such a set rule, seeing as the first paper In the 2009 specification was it not taken last june? Given to this only two exams have been taken! With only a 1.6% difference in each..
Reply 785
Hey guys I'm new here so go easy on me!

For the question that asked you to define a transgenic organism, I put: an organism which has received material from an organism of a different species. Now I'm worrying because for the life of me I'm unsure if I wrote genetic material or not.
If not, would I still get the mark?

I thought I did okay in the first paper, then thought I did better in the second but looking at the answers you guys gave I'm not so sure now. :frown:
I was predicted A* but got 3% under in the mocks. If the grade boundary for an A* is 80% I might just wing it but if it's anything higher I'm not so sure I will.

Any ideas what type of boundaries we're gonna be looking at?


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Reply 786
Original post by JonBlake
Hey guys I'm new here so go easy on me!

For the question that asked you to define a transgenic organism, I put: an organism which has received material from an organism of a different species. Now I'm worrying because for the life of me I'm unsure if I wrote genetic material or not.
If not, would I still get the mark?

I thought I did okay in the first paper, then thought I did better in the second but looking at the answers you guys gave I'm not so sure now. :frown:
I was predicted A* but got 3% under in the mocks. If the grade boundary for an A* is 80% I might just wing it but if it's anything higher I'm not so sure I will.

Any ideas what type of boundaries we're gonna be looking at?


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I was thinking about 146- but that 'mark scheme' is only one persons answers, they will have more on the mark scheme. Everyone on here says high, however you can't predict this specification is only into its 3rd exam period where the highest has been 81.6% in January, and I thought these exams were harder and far more vague ..
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Reply 787
Original post by JonBlake
Hey guys I'm new here so go easy on me!

For the question that asked you to define a transgenic organism, I put: an organism which has received material from an organism of a different species. Now I'm worrying because for the life of me I'm unsure if I wrote genetic material or not.
If not, would I still get the mark?

I thought I did okay in the first paper, then thought I did better in the second but looking at the answers you guys gave I'm not so sure now. :frown:
I was predicted A* but got 3% under in the mocks. If the grade boundary for an A* is 80% I might just wing it but if it's anything higher I'm not so sure I will.

Any ideas what type of boundaries we're gonna be looking at?


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im unsure about 'material' :frown: you MIGHT but :/

And it may be 80% or higher we're not sure :frown:
Reply 788
Original post by Umackjiggles
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Thank you soo much! How did you find the paper?
Original post by Siiba
Thank you soo much! How did you find the paper?


Fairly easy to be honest. I reckon I got around 57-58/60 depending on how they mark it. Not sure about paper 1 though because no has posted the answers or the paper online :frown: .
Reply 790
Original post by Stopmessing
That bloody legume question...


Literally had no idea what to right, so just made it up...:colondollar:
Original post by Siiba
Literally had no idea what to right, so just made it up...:colondollar:


what do you reckon you got out of 180?
Reply 792
Anyone know when a question paper will be up :smile:
Reply 793
Original post by own
Anyone know when a question paper will be up :smile:


No one's centre give them out :/
Original post by sahajkaur
No one's centre give them out :/


has anyone tried?
i keep going on and on about this but it would help everybody so much if we could get the papers like maths-so we could calculate marks and grade boundaries.
Reply 795
Original post by thetejmaster
has anyone tried?
i keep going on and on about this but it would help everybody so much if we could get the papers like maths-so we could calculate marks and grade boundaries.


That's the thing! Some centres do give it out, obviously no one who does biology here goes to such a centre.
Reply 796
The only difference is that with maths there is a definite answer, for a lot of biology there can be several answers, so alike the post which someone gave some answers, this is only their point of view whereas usually the mark scheme will have allowances etc for other answers...


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Original post by JonBlake
Hey guys I'm new here so go easy on me!

For the question that asked you to define a transgenic organism, I put: an organism which has received material from an organism of a different species. Now I'm worrying because for the life of me I'm unsure if I wrote genetic material or not.
If not, would I still get the mark?

I thought I did okay in the first paper, then thought I did better in the second but looking at the answers you guys gave I'm not so sure now. :frown:
I was predicted A* but got 3% under in the mocks. If the grade boundary for an A* is 80% I might just wing it but if it's anything higher I'm not so sure I will.

Any ideas what type of boundaries we're gonna be looking at?


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do i know you?ofc i do jks.
im pretty sure i put the same answers as u..as for whether you will get the mark, its a toughie but u would need 2 see the exact wording of it,- and the mark scheme,-if the word genetic was underlined/in bold and u hadnt put it, u would lose the mark, but if it was in brackets you wouldnt so....
the answers given on tsr,are not always right, indeed ive seen ridocolous things on tsr which are clearly wrong, so dw.-remember whats passed has passed,and concentrate on what is head of u and not what u have already done seeing as u cant change it.
i hate 2 break the bubble, but i would say it is unlikely 2 80% for an a*, the lowest will most likely be 82% i reckon, judging on how ppl found it on tsr, and at school,(although i could be wrong)
in january it was 80% for an a* and the grade boundaries tend 2 be lower in jan than june and in my opinion some of the questions on jan were harder,
my personal opinion (although shared by many others) is that the grade boundaries will be 150/180 for an a*,as thats what i thought it would be b4 the exam, and the exam was as difficult as i expected it (but luckily i half guessed some answers and got them right):P
but as i wrote earlier, dw 2 much on the past,focus on the present, u probably still have quite a few exams left and u dont want 2 mess up them, especially after how much work u have put in the last 2 years.
Original post by sahajkaur
That's the thing! Some centres do give it out, obviously no one who does biology here goes to such a centre.

its normally overseas, but knowing our exams officer,it is highly unlikely he would keep spares or give them out.
Amazingg paper! <3

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