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Reply 20

technik

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Jim-ie

I'm a Sinn Fein voter in the first place.

prefer not to be represented by your MP then?

Reply 21

Jim-ie

14

Partys with 5 MPs in a parliament like westminster don't get much say, so it doesn't make a difference. Apart from having the 4th safest seat in the UK, he does his constituency duties fine. English MPs, particularly ministers, don't care much for Northern Ireland regardless of the MP. They'll still bring in education cuts when it suits them and Gerry Adams or Ian Paisley isn't going to stop them quite frankly.

Reply 22

Beekeeper

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Laika

Don't you find it ironic that you usually target the working classes with your BNP rants, yet they are strangely over-represented here with a predominantly middle-upper class body of people. Torys are winning this poll for instance.

Not that I'm disagreeing that the BNP target working class voters but it's still odd.

Not really. We all know about the publicity TSR has had on BNP and white nationalist related forums. I hold such publicity fully responsible for their gross over-representation.

Before TSR got all of it's publicity on white nationalist forums, sometime earlier this year, support for the BNP was almost non-existent; just look at the first GE result- they had something stupid like 0.2% of the vote (what you would expect among students).
Suddenly by the next TSR GE less than 7 months later (after the very sudden influx of BNP members), their share of the vote had rocketted to well over 5%.

The significance of the BNP on TSR is merely because of publicity on their forums a few months ago, it has nothing to do with the social status of TSR members overall.

Reply 23

L i b

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Beekeeper

The fixation with the BNP on this forum is really starting to get up my nose. Before I came on TSR I couldn't give a toss about them, now nothing annoys me more.

Yes, it is slightly disturbing how much they are mentioned. In a normal day they don't even cross into my sphere of thought... until I visit TSR.

Jim-ie

Labour endorse the SDLP

They used to. Since Tony Blair came along they stopped making any sort of endorsement although they do co-operate on some matters usually with similar European parties.

Not to mention they're now in competition to some degree since they were forced to accept members from Northern Ireland. Back in the old days if you applied you'd get back a letter telling you where your nearest SDLP office was.

Reply 24

Agent Smith

11

Greens or Liberals. Stuff anonymity.

Green party.

No more ties with the SDLP? Bang goes the last vestige of Labour being Socialists, then. I don't understand this particular aspect of devolution, anyway. Why in buggery are the NI parties allowed to be represented in Westminster, while the mainland ones aren't in Stormont - when it's open?

Reply 27

Jim-ie

14

Didn't know what.

Well, because stormont is for northern MLAs, not for mainland parties. Westminster is the parliament that is ahead of the devolved parliaments. I certainly wouldn't want labour or conservative in stormont, they don't represent me or anyone here and the point of a devolved government is to bring government tasks to a closer level rather than direct rule :smile:

Reply 28

SolInvictus

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Tory Blue, Tory True,
'Till my dying days I'll do.
They my open heart have wooed,
Oh my Tory party, ooh!

Reply 29

Lord Waddell

1

Conservative. While I don't particularly approve of much of what Cameron is doing, especially his new politically correct agenda I essentially believe that the Conservative Party as a whole still holds true to its values.

Reply 30

technik

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Agent Smith

I don't understand this particular aspect of devolution, anyway. Why in buggery are the NI parties allowed to be represented in Westminster, while the mainland ones aren't in Stormont - when it's open?

because whoever stands and wins in the constituencies gets elected.

if the "mainland" parties won NI seats they'd be in the assembly too. fact is the conservatives are the only ones to bother and they usually only pick up a few hundred votes in places like castlereagh or north down.

Reply 31

Andronicus Comnenus

Monster Raving Looney.

Reply 32

Howard

5

You know something? I'm a fairly political animal; no expert or anything but I've always been interested in it and like to think I am reasonably politically literate. But I have to admit that I probably wouldn't even bother voting for any of them at the moment.

There is bugger all to mark the difference between the three main parties and I couldn't be assed to drag myself down to the polling booth and piss away my vote on any of the minor parties.

Its a sad thing to say but I think I could honestly say I would abstain and go down the pub instead.

Reply 33

technik

13

Howard

You know something? I'm a fairly political animal; no expert or anything but I've always been interested in it and like to think I am reasonably politically literate. But I have to admit that I probably wouldn't even bother voting for any of them at the moment.

There is bugger all to mark the difference between the three main parties and I couldn't be assed to drag myself down to the polling booth and piss away my vote on any of the minor parties.

Its a sad thing to say but I think I could honestly say I would abstain and go down the pub instead.

thats the good part about NI elections - they are always interesting.

Reply 34

RieLouise

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Howard

You know something? I'm a fairly political animal; no expert or anything but I've always been interested in it and like to think I am reasonably politically literate. But I have to admit that I probably wouldn't even bother voting for any of them at the moment.

There is bugger all to mark the difference between the three main parties and I couldn't be assed to drag myself down to the polling booth and piss away my vote on any of the minor parties.

Its a sad thing to say but I think I could honestly say I would abstain and go down the pub instead.

Moi aussi. 'Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here I am stuck in the middle with...absolutely no one really.'

Don't you mean to the post box? It would be kind of difficult to drag yourself across the Atlantic. :wink:

Reply 35

decola

8

If I had to, lib dems.

Reply 36

Greyhound02

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technik

the 4th biggest party is the DUP, whom i doubt you'll be voting for as it seems you reside in england.

What are you basing that on?

Reply 37

Jim-ie

14

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_United_Kingdom_general_election%2C_2005#Overall_results

Largest parties in the UK
1.Labour 356 seats
2.Conservative 198
3.Liberal Democrat 62
4.Democratic Unionist Party 9 seats
5.Scottish National Party 6 seats
6.Sinn Féin 5 seats
7.Plaid Cymru 3 seats
8.Social Democratic and Labour Party 3 seats
9.Ulster Unionist Party 1 seat
10.RESPECT 1 seat
11.Independant 1 seat
12.Health Concern 1 seat

:smile:

Reply 38

sophisti_kate

Lord Waddell

Conservative. While I don't particularly approve of much of what Cameron is doing, especially his new politically correct agenda I essentially believe that the Conservative Party as a whole still holds true to its values.

Ditto. Cameron has got to get away from all this PC "let's go green and ruin the countryside with wind turbines" ideology in an attempt to woo LibDems over, I wouldn't vote Labour despite agreeing with TB over the Iraq war because of the idiocy of the Anti-Hunting farce. The Telegraph today had two v good articles - one being about Dave the Chameleon and how Labour cannot "decide whether the Tory leader is a classic, foaming, frothing at the mouth, tax 'em and hang 'em and flog 'em and privatise 'em and then send 'em home on the first banana boat back to Bongo Bongo Land Tory bastard, or whether he is a flip-flopping focus group weasel who'll do anything to get a vote..." Secondly, another article remarked on how Margaret Thatcher in an opposition interview in the 1970s said that many people felt "swamped" by immigrants. This shocked liberal opinion but made worried voters think she was on their side and votes for the National Front were negligible. "The only way for people to stop voting for the extreme Right is for Conservatives not to be oblivious to what drives voters there."

Reply 39

Carl

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Beekeeper

A major shift? My overall political ideas have changed very little over the last couple of years, the only thing changing is how the main Parties appeal to me.

On social issues, I feel very little connection with the tories, so it is essential that they polish up their economic policies.

A case of your backyard flying into the neighbours hen, as it were?

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