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I'm dyslexic. Will get the test report soon. What are the next steps...DSA

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Reply 40
Original post by Holby_fanatic
I don't think one should receive a brand new laptop... Can't these people just download the software onto their current one. Unless they can prove their current one is practically ancient and cannot support the software. Also, why do they get to reclaim money on expenses? What expenses are these exactly?


Expenses are traditionally in the form of coloured paper, printer supplies, additional books. Some examples for these would be: coloured paper for dyslexics, printer supplies for those who are unable to use university resources such as people with anxiety, additional books for those unable to use the library, it's worth noting that this is non-core textbooks, any core textbooks must be paid for by the student.

For travel costs this is usually for people with physical disabilities which are unable to use public transport, or for extreme anxiety sufferers or other such related conditions. For dyslexia, transport is Very unlikely as there is no need for it.

It's worth noting that DSA isn't a blank cheque, everything is assessed properly and efficiently for the persons specific disability needs. Then people claim back for things so they never see the money. People on DSA do not get the same things, some will get travel costs, some will get extra books etc but people won't get 'everything' as they simply don't need it all.

The DSA standard laptops are not expensive and extremely rarely would a Macbook Pro be recommended, I think it's become standard DSA policy to mostly reject MBP requests. In the case of an MS Surface, i think these are great devices but there's no way that DSA will agree to fund those as people don't need a Surface for their disability, a standard laptop would be sufficient. If people want to 'upgrade' the products themselves using their own cash then they're free to do so but DSA only funds the core needs not extras which the student desires rather than needs.
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Whether it is fair or not the general impression of the OP's post is that the diagnosis was a gateway to benefits - specifically a Mac. There is no mention of any understanding or at least acknowledgement of the purpose of such assistance being supportive of learning, education and qualifications.
Reply 42
Original post by desdemonata
I am well aware that some dyslexics can read better with things like coloured paper. However, I have a friend who was provided with a laptop for dyslexia that comes with no software geared towards his dyslexia. That is why I do not understand the reasoning, because dyslexia puts you at a disadvantage for learning, not for not being able to afford a bog standard laptop.

Without knowing the detail of your friend's situation or what went on in their DSA assessment, none of us - even you - are in a position to judge. Sometimes a laptop is provided because a person can't handwrite fast enough to take lecture notes. That doesn't need anything more than MS Word and is cheaper than providing a note-taker.

The bottom line is that DSA funding is limited and isn't distributed lightly. The forms you fill in to apply for it are yards long. You have to provide written proof of your problem and its impact on your ability to study from health professionals before your application is even considered. IF the application is accepted, you then have a formal assessment with a specialist advisor who decides what - if any - specialist help you need. From what was said and done in my assessment, they're well drilled in asking questions and giving tests designed to expose those who are just panhandling for a free laptop.

I'm sorry that you don't understand your friend's situation, but you do need to accept that they've jumped through a lot of hoops and passed through a range of medical and occupational health specialists to get what they have. If you feel they don't "deserve" their laptop, the odds are that you're wrong.
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Reply 43
Original post by Old_Simon
Whether it is fair or not the general impression of the OP's post is that the diagnosis was a gateway to benefits - specifically a Mac. There is no mention of any understanding or at least acknowledgement of the purpose of such assistance being supportive of learning, education and qualifications.


Ok then...
Original post by River85


DSA isn't given in the form of money. Much of it is equipment or non-medical helper. Of course this will help, as the equipment and computer software allows a student to work quicker, to formulate their ideas, to plan essays, to record lectures. A non-medical helper can take lecture notes, offer study skills sessions, or provide mentoring.




I know it isn't, but that was their response to someone asking why dyslexics should receive money, I was questioning why money would change any of those things. I can see why certain equipment is useful and fully agree with it being given to disabled students.
also Johnny Marr in your top 7 guitarists, really? :wink:
Original post by Klix88
Without knowing the detail of your friend's situation or what went on in their DSA assessment, none of us - even you - are in a position to judge. Sometimes a laptop is provided because a person can't handwrite fast enough to take lecture notes. That doesn't need anything more than MS Word and is cheaper than providing a note-taker.

The bottom line is that DSA funding is limited and isn't distributed lightly. The forms you fill in to apply for it are yards long. You have to provide written proof of your problem and its impact on your ability to study from health professionals before your application is even considered. IF the application is accepted, you then have a formal assessment with a specialist advisor who decides what - if any - specialist help you need. From what was said and done in my assessment, they're well drilled in asking questions and giving tests designed to expose those who are just panhandling for a free laptop.

I'm sorry that you don't understand your friend's situation, but you do need to accept that they've jumped through a lot of hoops and passed through a range of medical and occupational health specialists to get what they have. If you feel they don't "deserve" their laptop, the odds are that you're wrong.


That isn't what I said at all. What I was actually saying is that they have a useless laptop that doesn't help them. How exactly was I saying that they didn't deserve a laptop? It's saying they deserve one that actually comes with software to help... because just giving them a standard laptop isn't really helping them as it's not a question of being able to afford a laptop.

If you're going to get self-righteous, you might want to read the post you're quoting a little more carefully.
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Reply 46
How long do I have to wait for an assessment?

Do they ask you what specific laptop you want, i.e. Dell, Sony?
Reply 47
Original post by OU Student
Many Dyslexic people require software to help with reading or software to change the colour of the background. They may need an up to date laptop to be able to run this software.

They don't get money. They get equipment and possibly a non medical helper. They can claim back expenses, such as coloured paper. It's not up to you what you spend the money on. The assesor sends a list of recommendations to the body responsible for providing student finance.


Hi,

Hows does the whole DSA process work exactly?

Do they ask you what type of laptop you want, i.e. Sony, Dell?

Also, how long do you have to wait til you get the laptop? I am currently at the stage of providing some evidence about my disability. Do you think I could get a laptop in a month?
Original post by studymanhard
Hi,

Hows does the whole DSA process work exactly?

Do they ask you what type of laptop you want, i.e. Sony, Dell?

Also, how long do you have to wait til you get the laptop? I am currently at the stage of providing some evidence about my disability. Do you think I could get a laptop in a month?


It'll probably take around a month from your assessment til you get the equipment so if your assessment is soon you may get it in little over a month. They provide the spec for the laptop and the amount of money they will allocate and you choose from the suppliers website and can put in some of your own money to get a better laptop.
Reply 49
Original post by x__justmyluck
It'll probably take around a month from your assessment til you get the equipment so if your assessment is soon you may get it in little over a month. They provide the spec for the laptop and the amount of money they will allocate and you choose from the suppliers website and can put in some of your own money to get a better laptop.


What really? You can get a better laptop from choosing from a website and paying a little extra. I don't mind doing that.
Original post by River85

In 2007, following a diagnosis of dyspraxia, I had a second DSA assessment. As my desktop was no longer in working order I was given a laptop.


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Out of curiosity, what aspect of being dyspraxic would warrant you being given a laptop, poor/slow hand writing due to pen grip?
Original post by studymanhard
What really? You can get a better laptop from choosing from a website and paying a little extra. I don't mind doing that.


Yeah you just pay the difference between the cost of the laptop you want and the money they allocate you for a standard laptop.
OP: You clearly just want a free expensive laptop which is beyond ridiculous.
If you want one so badly go and buy one. :rolleyes:
Reply 53
Original post by lipslikemorphine
OP: You clearly just want a free expensive laptop which is beyond ridiculous.
If you want one so badly go and buy one. :rolleyes:


Look. I am genuinely dyslexic. I get extra time at university, and I am not cheating the system in any way. I suffered from learning difficulties from a young age, and am extremely lucky that I received 1:1 support throughout my primary and some what secondary school. Because of all the help and support I'm doing well. The DSA will help with other equipment as well as SOFTWARE. Sure I could buy a laptop but not the SOFTWARE.
Original post by studymanhard
Look. I am genuinely dyslexic. I get extra time at university, and I am not cheating the system in any way. I suffered from learning difficulties from a young age, and am extremely lucky that I received 1:1 support throughout my primary and some what secondary school. Because of all the help and support I'm doing well. The DSA will help with other equipment as well as SOFTWARE. Sure I could buy a laptop but not the SOFTWARE.


You only started caring about the software when everyone pointed out that you shouldn't care about getting a mac.
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Does this software even run on a Mac ? What software is it exactly ?
Original post by lipslikemorphine
OP: You clearly just want a free expensive laptop which is beyond ridiculous.
If you want one so badly go and buy one. :rolleyes:


This is the impression I get.
Reply 57
Original post by rickfloss
no you dont get any money, just support to put you up to the level of non dyslexic

you will get taxi fares(minus bus fares), but you will need to pay first then provide reciepts(also you must hve a reason, ie bus anxiety)

imo the dyslexia test is pretty easy to fake, even with a psychologist doing it, just need to do your research...


What? Several cognitive tests are easy to fake?

Hahaha. Sounds like you've been told random info from someone and just taken it on.

There are probably certain aspects of it you could fake(poor memory), but dyslexia also means you do well in the cognitive test in certain areas other people do not. So, if you were non dyslexic, you'd have a hard time faking the parts you'd not be good at :wink:.
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Reply 58
Original post by Holby_fanatic
What percentage of people who receive this money actually use it for educational purposes though? I highly doubt it's a high proportion. It's more likely to go on food than anything else.

You'd be surprised how much constant taunts can lower a person's mood to the point where your learning is affected due to mental stress or whatever. I personally don't see me having these jibes as a detriment to my learning or whatever but some people get really worked up over constant things said about them, to the point of depression. Depression would affect someone's learning abilities.


You don't get free money to spend as you please. It's all controlled, so for example if you get refunds for printing if you can keep hold of the receipts.

The problem for me is, due to Dyslexia and ADHD both of which come with organisational issues I always loose receipts so still end up paying around £150 a semester than the average student on printing.

I really don't understand why there's such a focus by people on the free laptops and software. I never requested a free laptop even though my desktop sounded like a jet engine was going off. There's lots of other support given like a studies mentor, noise cancelling headphones etc.

I'm in my 5th year of University, it STILL takes me 3 hours to read an 8 page article and write a few notes on it. And in order to study I have to be away from all visual and auditory distraction. So, i'll find myself a corner in the library where I can face the wall and not see anything or anyone. I'll put my hood up and the noise cancelling headphones on(but on silent, I can't even work with music). If I can't do all that, working becomes completely impossible.
Original post by laeof
What? Several cognitive tests are easy to fake?

Hahaha. Sounds like you've been told random info from someone and just taken it on.

There are probably certain aspects of it you could fake(poor memory), but dyslexia also means you do well in the cognitive test in certain areas other people do not. So, if you were non dyslexic, you'd have a hard time faking the parts you'd not be good at :wink:.


your a university student, do some research, not hard to find a book about assessing dyslexia, then just see what you need to do bad on.

If you meet the criteria for dyslexia and your educational psychologist assesor thinks your faking it(ie gap between scores too large), they cant say this, they must follow the proper methodology.

Also, parts of the WAIS IV are on youtube.

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