Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing? - Mk II

You're standing by this assertion that lines on a map define our culture. Several Aberdonians commented on this thread (the first one) and they felt it was unfair that the region was being used to bankroll the poorer central belt. The more heavily populated areas dominate the vote. It's fine complaining about that in the UK but the same scenario arises again in iScotland as the central belt dominates elections/referendums at the expense of other areas.

I obviously touched a nerve there. I wonder why. If you had read why I wrote in a slightly more analytical way you would have realised I obviously wasn't talking about any individual.

Why bitter? Would you have said the same if I had said strongly right-wing, apathetic, and unable to focus?

It's just a shame to waste a debate with name-calling and predjudice.

Well i'm standing by the assertion that the line on the map makes you either Scottish or English, and that can count for alot in determining a persons sense of identity. I understand what you are saying- and obviously the more populated areas have a greater say in the outcome of a referendum, the majority speaks; that is democracy. But when the whole of Scotland (a country) can vote for one thing in an election/ referendum and not get that outcome? Of course people aren't going to be content with that. The voice of areas in Scotland outwith the central belt will be better heard in an independent Scotland.

Well you have called me (perhaps indirectly, given), and every other yes voter on here intolerant. That is untrue, and quite frankly, very offensive.

Well you have called me (perhaps indirectly, given), and every other yes voter on here intolerant. That is untrue, and quite frankly, very offensive.

Don't worry. Buntin has offended every No voter here more than once.


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Pure hypocrisy there. Your first and second statement are directly contradictory.

By the way, Scotland is effectively a nation, not a country. Also what are your views on Europe?

You don't think that "intolerant" is a fair description of someone who has confessed fiving an earful to someone who tried to give their child a flag, then? Or for someone who has said they will vandalise the property of those who campaign against them?

. I am pretty sure that other comment was made in jest!

No i don't think that intolerant is a fair description. I would give an earful to anyone who tried to give my child anything without asking me first. That's being a responsible parent. The absolute cheek of him. I would feel exactly the same if it was a yes flag. I am pretty sure that other comment was made in jest!

Nation/ country. It doesn't matter. The point is that the people of Scotland feel inherently distinct from the people of England/ rest of the U.K- regardless of the fact that the U.K is "one country". And therefore when our vote counts for nothing in an election/ referendum, it feels like ANOTHER country is running our affairs. It is a completely different issue to one area of England swinging the vote. If that wasn't true we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.

I am on the fence about Europe.

Sorry Quady, could you elaborate? I'm not quite sure what you mean.

London voted Labour didnt it?

Londom is a distinct region quite different to the rest of the UK.

It needs very different Government policy than the rest of the UK.

So Londoners should have a vote on independence.

No because London is a REGION of England. The are not, nor have ever been, a separate country (nation or whatever). And besides- do they want to be independent?

No because London is a REGION of England. The are not, nor have ever been, a separate country (nation or whatever). And besides- do they want to be independent?