Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing? - Mk II

Does it really?

Not of course that it would matter if it did. Nuclear weapons being not the sort of thing you put to a referendum decision, obviouslly.

No, you obviously leave that for the constitution we don't seem to be getting a vote on.

Written by the SNP during the transition period...

It's covered on the STV website if you fancy a look. Still, at least it makes the SNP's assertion that all Scots want them gone look pretty silly. Posted from TSR Mobile

On the back of Salmond's fag packet.Posted from TSR Mobile

Yeah I looked. Doesn't say that a majority of Scots want rid at all though. Just like your latest made up comment that the SNP have asserted that all Scots want them gone.

It's getting harder and harder to take any of your comments seriously!

On Trident, just google through the polls done on this issue and you will find hugely different results coming out.

Back to the original question...

Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing?

GOOD. In 2018, maybe I will be able to watch a World Cup game where the pundits talk about something other than England and Wayne Rooney!

It says more Scots want them to stay than want them to go, but if you find another way of interpreting that then enlighten the rest of us.

You know the answer to that fine. Majority is 50% plus

More want them than want them to go. That will do for me.

I'm sure it is.

Well if we're going to stick with your love of this poll, you will of course embrace the same poll that shows 69% (I think we can classify that as a majority) of people in England and Wales think Scotland should be allowed to use the pound, which kind of dispels your myth that it would be electoral suicide for Osbourne to flip flop on the currency union.

Which one do you prefer?

Less people than that think Scotland should be the Queen as head of state!

If the question was 'should Scotland be allowed to use the pound' then the results are meaningless as of course Scotland can use it. As you know this is entirely different to the matter of a currency union so unless that was the question asked then the result is useless.

Salmond deliberately conflated the two to good effect and wasn't called out for it.Posted from TSR Mobile

Well if we're going to stick with your love of this poll, you will of course embrace the same poll that shows 69% (I think we can classify that as a majority) of people in England and Wales think Scotland should be allowed to use the pound

Sure, sure! You just keep accepting only the information that suits you if it makes you feel better.

Has it been mentioned yet that poll was part of a UK wide one, so the Scottish opinion sampling is actually too small to give a valid result? Also it was carried out in October.

A quick shot of common sense to the head would immediately make you question why 'a majority' of Scots would want to keep hold of the Nuclear weapons systems, of a different country.

But hey, you keep on believing!

So you think there is no difference between using the pound and having a formal currency union? Right.

And for what it's worth the presence of Trident creates masses of jobs in the area with the associated economic benefit that brings. Posted from TSR Mobile

Also, we often have polls showing a majority of people want the death penalty back; the fact that a majority of people are for it is neither here nor there.

Nope.

You think the average Joe in the street says sure, Scotland can use the pound, but no currency union? We can use the pound anyway!

Nope.

You think the average Joe in the street says sure, Scotland can use the pound, but no currency union? We can use the pound anyway!

A few jobs outweighs public concern at hosting nuclear weapons of another country? I doubt it. And how many Scots hold those jobs?
There have been plenty of polls showing support against nuclear weapons, so I think I'll ignore this add-on to a UK poll, from, last year!

It would be extremely poor policy for Scotland to use a foreign currency; it would have no control over interest rates, no ability to print money. At present Scottish economic interests play a role in determining interest rates.

Scotland would effectively have no central bank, and the Scottish governments inability to use monetary policy would mean it would have to achieve such objectives through fiscal policy only; this would entail massive swings in levels of taxation and spending to respond to economic circumstances which in other countries would merely require tweaking interest rates.

No-one can stop Scotland using the pound in the same way Ecuador uses the US dollar, but it would be unprecedented for a developed economy to adopt a foreign currency.



Anti-nuclear weapon sentiment is illogical; nuclear weapons are safer than nuclear energy. There has never been an accidental explosion of a nuclear weapon, whereas there have been many nuclear power accidents. Demanding the expulsion of British nuclear weapons while retaining nuclear power is utterly misconceived.

Besides, if Scotland intends to remain in NATO then it will likely have to continue to provide basing for Trident.