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Reply 60
Nightowl
The fact remains that the UN recognises Kuwait, and therefore we are duty bound to protect it. Whether Iraq likes that or not is irrelevent, and they are faced with a clear choice of pulling out, or (potentially) dire consequences.

Sanctions are on the express train to Security Council Central.

The Republic of Iraq repeats that our actions are only defensive. We are protecting our land; why does the UN not recognise that?
Reply 61
Because we do not believe your claims - you have no substantial evidence for Kuwait being the aggressor. You are invading a legitimate state and we will take action.
brimstone
The Republic of Iraq has only made defensive actions to prevent exploitation of our precious natural materials by the land grabbing bastards the rule the illegal state Kuwait. Our actions are not agressive and do not warrant external involvement.

The central issue here is whose position on Kuwait's status has the greater authority; Iraq's or the UN's. Given the democratic nature of the latter, it follows that the majority of the world's countries view Kuwait as a sovereign nation. The UN's stance thus supercedes Iraq's own; as a member of the UN, Iraq must be obedient to UN decisions, including rulings on the recognition of countries.

As to the claim that the invasion of Kuwait is not aggressive, we can only say that it is ludicrous. Whether it is regarded as a separatist province or a separate nation altogether, the fact remains that Kuwait has not attacked Iraq, so any claim by Iraq to be waging a defensive war is dead in the water; furthermore, even if the invasion was a reclamation of a province, which as has been made clear it is not, said reclamation would still count as aggressive in nature because, to put it crudely, Baghdad has sent the tanks in.

In response to the US delegate's comment regarding sanctions, the UK would like to express its grave doubts about the effectiveness of such a response. What is needed is not a long-term squeeze on Iraq, but decisive short-term action to halt the invasion quickly.
Reply 63
Agent Smith
The central issue here is whose position on Kuwait's status has the greater authority; Iraq's or the UN's. Given the democratic nature of the latter, it follows that the majority of the world's countries view Kuwait as a sovereign nation. The UN's stance thus supercedes Iraq's own; as a member of the UN, Iraq must be obedient to UN decisions, including rulings on the recognition of countries.

As to the claim that the invasion of Kuwait is not aggressive, we can only say that it is ludicrous. Whether it is regarded as a separatist province or a separate nation altogether, the fact remains that Kuwait has not attacked Iraq, so any claim by Iraq to be waging a defensive war is dead in the water; furthermore, even if the invasion was a reclamation of a province, which as has been made clear it is not, said reclamation would still count as aggressive in nature because, to put it crudely, Baghdad has sent the tanks in.

In response to the US delegate's comment regarding sanctions, the UK would like to express its grave doubts about the effectiveness of such a response. What is needed is not a long-term squeeze on Iraq, but decisive short-term action to halt the invasion quickly.


The US is hopeful that these sanctions will have an effect, but we certainly have no intention on waiting for Iraq to take note. If they do not have an immediate effect, we will imeediate call together a coalition force to decipher a more short term solution.
Nightowl
The US is hopeful that these sanctions will have an effect, but we certainly have no intention on waiting for Iraq to take note. If they do not have an immediate effect, we will imeediate call together a coalition force to decipher a more short term solution.

the UN should be there to prevent conflict not be itching to start one
i believe that the UN has not exhausted all the diplomatic options available to it it should seek the aid of the Arab league which i believe has some influence on Iraq
Reply 65
ahmed
the UN should be there to prevent conflict not be itching to start one


Hence the economic sanctions

ahmed
i believe that the UN has not exhausted all the diplomatic options available to it it should seek the aid of the Arab league which i believe has some influence on Iraq


We have consulted with the Arab League, and they are currently passing a resolution also demanding Iraq's withdrawal. We won't stand by, and the Arab League won't stand by, idly while Iraq invades a non aggressive neighbour.
Nightowl
Hence the economic sanctions



We have consulted with the Arab League, and they are currently passing a resolution also demanding Iraq's withdrawal. We won't stand by, and the Arab League won't stand by, idly while Iraq invades a non aggressive neighbour.



A non aggressive neighbour with a dubious claim to sovereignty?

A non aggressive neighbour which was illegally draining the oil reserves of Iraq through cross boarder pipelines?

This theft by the so called state of Kuwait required penalisation and in the lack of action by the UN Iraq reclaimed its territory to prevent the leeching of its resources.
Reply 67
Nefarious
A non aggressive neighbour with a dubious claim to sovereignty?


Kuwait has existed since the 16th century, in its time its been a British protectorate, it was the first Gulf - Arab states to declare independence in 1961, because of the oil Iraq disputed its declaration and threatened to invade but the British deterred them. That's quite a claim Iraq has to the territory :rolleyes:

A non aggressive neighbour which was illegally draining the oil reserves of Iraq through cross boarder pipelines?


Allegedly. There is no proof of this, its a cheap line thought up by a crazed power-mad dictator.

This theft by the so called state of Kuwait required penalisation and in the lack of action by the UN Iraq reclaimed its territory to prevent the leeching of its resources.


No proof exists, no evidence exists other than "Saddam says so", Kuwait is innocent until prooved guilty and we will protect them, whatever it takes.
Nightowl
Kuwait has existed since the 16th century, in its time its been a British protectorate, it was the first Gulf - Arab states to declare independence in 1961, because of the oil Iraq disputed its declaration and threatened to invade but the British deterred them. That's quite a claim Iraq has to the territory :rolleyes:


[OOC]You don't expect a representative of the PLO to be reasonable here do you? :rolleyes: [/OOC]

Just because it broke away a long time ago it doesn't mean it is a legal state, it means it has been tolerated until now because there was nothing to provoke conflict. The illegal pipelines changed that.


Allegedly. There is no proof of this, its a cheap line thought up by a crazed power-mad dictator. No proof exists, no evidence exists other than "Saddam says so", Kuwait is innocent until prooved guilty and we will protect them, whatever it takes.


A so called “power crazed dictator” whose rise to power was assisted by the USA. The evidence is there, you are just ignoring it as a pretext to invade and steal Iraq’s oil.
Reply 69
Nightowl
Allegedly. There is no proof of this, its a cheap line thought up by a crazed power-mad dictator.

The Republic of Iraq condemns the USA's insulting comments.

No proof exists, no evidence exists other than "Saddam says so", Kuwait is innocent until prooved guilty and we will protect them, whatever it takes.
Pathetic! Iraqi oil inspectors discovered Kuwait's illegal syphoning of Iraqi oil during a routine investigation. It is not a claim of 'Saddam says so'.
So, because "Saddam says so", it becomes right to conquer an entire country over a resource-related dispute? Not so. The UN is the talking shop for resolving such disputes, and in bypassing it Iraq has forfeited any right to claim moral superiority.

Additionally, in invading Kuwait, Iraq has committed a far more serious act than Kuwait's alleged pinching of oil would have been.

Furthermore, the UK finds it suspiciously convenient that an Iraqi investigation team found that a "province" Iraq was dying to "reclaim" just happened to be siphoning resources from Iraq, thereby supposedly providing justification for all-out war.

Finally, we must request that all delegates, particularly the American and Iraqi ones, watch their language.

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