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Reply 1
Consumers are to blame, no one else. Debt has arisen as the consequence of their actions, no one forces them to take on credit to purchase goods.
Reply 2
The Anglo-Saxon system of capitalism which emphasises Wealth Creation over long-term stability and equality...
Reply 3
Apagg
Consumers are to blame, no one else. Debt has arisen as the consequence of their actions, no one forces them to take on credit to purchase goods.


Ditto.
Reply 4
alasdair_R
The Anglo-Saxon system of capitalism which emphasises Wealth Creation over long-term stability and equality...


Obviously everyone being equally poor and not in debt is a far better alternative.
Reply 5
Bismarck
Obviously everyone being equally poor and not in debt is a far better alternative.


Yes, because Sweden and Germany are amongst the poorest nations in the world...
Reply 6
alasdair_R
Yes, because Sweden and Germany are amongst the poorest nations in the world...


For starters, neither are anything approaching socialism (especially Germany, which has a completely different model). And more importantly, go look at both countries' growth rates over the last 15 years.
Reply 7
Apagg
Consumers are to blame, no one else. Debt has arisen as the consequence of their actions, no one forces them to take on credit to purchase goods.


Thirded.

:ditto:
Reply 8
all of them are responsible
Reply 9
alasdair_R
The Anglo-Saxon system of capitalism which emphasises Wealth Creation over long-term stability and equality...


By long-term stability and equality you mean stagnation, right?
Low national average salaries, high mortgage payments. Interest rate went up 3 times in 2 months.

A third of families pay up to £1000 pm on mortgage repayments. High council tax, Gas, Electric, bills piling in and familes struggling.

The materialistic mentality in this country to buy now pay later is out of control. If you can't afford it, don't buy it.
Reply 11
Bismarck
For starters, neither are anything approaching socialism (especially Germany, which has a completely different model). And more importantly, go look at both countries' growth rates over the last 15 years.


I didn't say they were Socialist! I just implied they didn't follow the Anglo-Saxon Model of Capitalism.

And Growth isn't the be all and end all...
Reply 12
Capitalism is to BLAME for people spending too much?

Jesus...

No one is to BLAME other than those who freely choose to take on too much debt.

The capacity for having an easy to manage debt burden is pretty much the same under capitalism as it is under socialism...
Reply 13
Wow...some people really need to take some classes on different economic models. I said that one of the side-effects of the Anglo-Saxon Model of Capitalism (which is not capitalism, but a type of capitalism) was that there generally tends to be a lot of consumer debt, which has benefits, and drawbacks. The benefits being that it fuels the economy, the drawbacks being the day that everybody realises they economy is being fuelled by make-believe money.
Reply 14
gbduo
Thirded.

:ditto:



fourthed :biggrin:
Reply 15
The consumer is to blame but the banks have a responsibility. Ruthless profiteering using illegal charges on deposit accounts, mortgage exit fees and the like do not help the situation.

Because of the period of low investment from 01 to 04 borrowing was encouraged so to that extent we can blame the Government and the MPC of the BoE.

But basically it is the stupid morons who couldn't budget a pick n mix run.
Reply 16
national debt is a source of prospertiy, it is a good thing. keeps the economy going.
Apagg
Consumers are to blame, no one else. Debt has arisen as the consequence of their actions, no one forces them to take on credit to purchase goods.


Fifthed.
Reply 18
Adam83
national debt is a source of prospertiy, it is a good thing. keeps the economy going.


National debt =/= consumer debt.
Reply 19
alasdair_R
Wow...some people really need to take some classes on different economic models. I said that one of the side-effects of the Anglo-Saxon Model of Capitalism (which is not capitalism, but a type of capitalism) was that there generally tends to be a lot of consumer debt, which has benefits, and drawbacks. The benefits being that it fuels the economy, the drawbacks being the day that everybody realises they economy is being fuelled by make-believe money.


You've just described every economy that has banks

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