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I'm stuck on this question.

I began like this:

Let 'X' = x
And 'Y' = (3x-pi/4)
Therefore
X + Y = 4x - pi/4
X - Y = pi/4 - 2x

So the equation can be rewritten as:

(sqrt2)2cos(2x - pi/8)cos(pi/8 - x) = sinx

I don't know what to do next though, nor am I sure my sqrt two is in the right place.
Reply 1
Original post by pineneedles
trigonometry.jpg

I'm stuck on this question.

I began like this:

Let 'X' = x
And 'Y' = (3x-pi/4)
Therefore
X + Y = 4x - pi/4
X - Y = pi/4 - 2x

So the equation can be rewritten as:

(sqrt2)2cos(2x - pi/8)cos(pi/8 - x) = sinx

I don't know what to do next though, nor am I sure my sqrt two is in the right place.


start by expanding the lump with root2 in front using the compound angle
put the numbers in
simplify fully
then you will see where the hence comes from
Original post by TeeEm
start by expanding the lump with root2 in front using the compound angle
put the numbers in
simplify fully
then you will see where the hence comes from


Alrighty, I did what you said and got:

cos x + cos 3x + sin 3x sqrt 2 = sin x

I can't see where the hence comes from, though.
Reply 3
Original post by pineneedles
Alrighty, I did what you said and got:

cos x + cos 3x + sin 3x sqrt 2 = sin x

I can't see where the hence comes from, though.





you have a square root which should not be there

cosx + cos3x in the LHS

and

sinx - sin3x in RHS

any better?
Reply 4
Original post by pineneedles
trigonometry.jpg

I'm stuck on this question.

I began like this:

Let 'X' = x
And 'Y' = (3x-pi/4)
Therefore
X + Y = 4x - pi/4
X - Y = pi/4 - 2x

So the equation can be rewritten as:

(sqrt2)2cos(2x - pi/8)cos(pi/8 - x) = sinx

I don't know what to do next though, nor am I sure my sqrt two is in the right place.


Hi,

I cheated and used the 'or otherwise' method, I will try and do the other method later as well if I have time.

http://postimg.org/image/czv09jooh/

Kind regards

JB
Original post by TeeEm
you have a square root which should not be there

cosx + cos3x in the LHS

and

sinx - sin3x in RHS

any better?


Ah, alright, I looked through it again and saw where the square root should have disappeared.

I ended up getting:
2cosx - 2sin^2xcosx = 2sinx - 2sin x cos^2 - 2sin^3x
through using the identity in the question and the compound formula to change everything into terms of the angle x.
I'll continue with it tomorrow, but does that look alright so far?
Apologies, I'm just finding this question tricky.
Reply 6
Original post by pineneedles
Ah, alright, I looked through it again and saw where the square root should have disappeared.

I ended up getting:
2cosx - 2sin^2xcosx = 2sinx - 2sin x cos^2 - 2sin^3x
through using the identity in the question and the compound formula to change everything into terms of the angle x.
I'll continue with it tomorrow, but does that look alright so far?
Apologies, I'm just finding this question tricky.


I am not checking the individual workings but your general idea is correct.
You rightly find this question hard, because it is well above the usual standard of exam questions.
(Somebody could also correct me but I do not think the use of these identities are tested under the current EDEXCEL syllabus)
all the best.
Original post by genius10
Hi,

I cheated and used the 'or otherwise' method, I will try and do the other method later as well if I have time.

http://postimg.org/image/czv09jooh/

Kind regards

JB


How did you go from 4cos^3x-2cosx-4sin^3x-2sinx=0

to cosx(2cosx^2-1) + sinx(1-2sin^2x) = 0 ???

Should be 2cosx(2cosx^2-1) + 2sinx(1-2sin^2x) no?
(edited 8 years ago)
Reply 8
Original post by HassanINC
How did you go from 4cos^3x-2cosx-4sin^3x-2sinx=0

to cosx(2cosx^2-1) + sinx(1-2sin^2x) = 0 ???

Should be 2cosx(2cosx^2-1) + 2sinx(1-2sin^2x) no?


Hi Hassan,

You are correct in saying it should be multiplied by 2, but remember it is being set equal to 0 so you can divide both sides by 2. Basically 2cos2x=0 has the same roots as cos2x=0. http://postimg.org/image/rjpwtok9l/ (oops..graphs drawn were y=2cos2x and y=cos2x not as draw on graph... but I think you get the point)

I have uploaded some more working, and a graph to help you visualize why you can divide by 2.

http://postimg.org/image/4lthtbue1/

I hope that helps

Kind regards

JB
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by genius10
Hi Hassan,

You are correct in saying it should be multiplied by 2, but remember it is being set equal to 0 so you can divide both sides by 2. Basically 2cos2x=0 has the same roots as cos2x=0. http://postimg.org/image/rjpwtok9l/

I have uploaded some more working, and a graph to help you visualize why you can divide by 2.

http://postimg.org/image/4lthtbue1/

I hope that helps

Kind regards

JB


Yup i realized as soon as i did the question myself


thanks for clearing it up

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