Why will Islam win?

Winning is creating the most paupers in the world? Religion is a joke.

If it is a joke you must explain why so many people in the world believe in it.

My explanation is that people realise that adult life is empty if it is solely the pursuit of toys. Love and family are far more important. Over the millennia religions have evolved as complex languages for dealing with the problems of the philosophy and emotion of family and social life. Religion is not just about reason, it also links a person emotionally to philosophical concepts. In simple philosophy we say "there are good reasons for helping your neighbour", in Christian religion they might say "remember the story of the Good Samaritan", the second approach cross links to a whole panoply of further emotional and other connections.

Humanity will win, in the end

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But sadly suspect it will have to get it's hands bloody a few more times before it does.

You've given two cold notions of both religion and capitalism.

You can see for yourself what religion is doing to the middle east. You can also see what capitalism is doing for the west. On one side you have backwards barbaric morals and on the other side you have scientific rationalism and intellectual enlightenment. One is conquering the other as we speak.

One of the places I take seminars is used as a food bank. Some of my male friends don't trust their girlfriends enough to marry them. A friend of mine from school committed suicide because he could see no point in it all. We had two people leave our shared house because they could not afford the rent any more....

Is the West winning? Its, ultimate, pointless victory will probably be the whole of humanity plugged into some sort of AI and kept like battery chickens to minimize their impact on the environment! The West is not winning, it is simply becoming ever more mechanically good at shovelling food down people's throats, immobilising the population with its media and sending remote controlled weapons to pulverize its enemies.

PS: Christians, Muslims and Buddhists all have capitalists.
PPS: Western morals are not superior, westerners are just utterly certain they are superior - like religious fanatics.

One of the places I take seminars is used as a food bank. Some of my male friends don't trust their girlfriends enough to marry them. A friend of mine from school committed suicide because he could see no point in it all. We had two people leave our shared house because they could not afford the rent any more....

Is the West winning? Its, ultimate, pointless victory will probably be the whole of humanity plugged into some sort of AI and kept like battery chickens to minimize their impact on the environment! The West is not winning, it is simply becoming ever more mechanically good at shovelling food down people's throats, immobilising the population with its media and sending remote controlled weapons to pulverize its enemies.

PS: Christians, Muslims and Buddhists all have capitalists.
PPS: Western morals are not superior, westerners are just utterly certain they are superior - like religious fanatics.

PPS: Western morals are not superior, westerners are just utterly certain they are superior - like religious fanatics.

- Bangladesh a country which has turned to religion, look at the levels of poverty. Are they happy? erm nope.
- Women who are religious also have high levels of divorce rate and the same for suicide rates (Lmao suicide bombers anyone?)
- West has already won - it has destroyed countries built on religious dictators and backward ideologies it has only left the ones willing to play ball.
- Either way capitalists or people who follow religion are not superior. But i'd definitely rather be a capitalist.

Your thinking is blatantly flawed.

P.S Why is religion growing? Because people cannot leave certain religions without being physically harmed and disowned by their whole family/community. Look at the TSR threads.........

I don't know what 'morals' you speak of, but if you don't like Western values then why stay in the west?

If you prefer Eastern values, stay in the East; if you prefer Western values, stay in the West.

The mixing of incompatible, and irreconcilable, values is a big problem.

If you look at the world's largest experiment in secularism - the communist empires, they achieved two results, an incredibly unhappy population and people who, when the empires ended, literally flocked into religion for something to fill the aching void. Despite this they have still not shaken off the depression of socialism.

World happiness surveys show that religion can make up for a lack of wealth but socialism cannot do this:



(God knows what is going on in Peru and Bolivia)

You obviously prefer the secular life, a mechanically lived, largely pointless existence is acceptable if there is enough social reward, toys and soothing strokes from authority, but it is not an inherently superior way of life.

If there comes a time when AIs work out how to program ever more successful AIs they will live in the world that you believe to be utopia. A world where one thing just presses on another for no point at all.