'Hard Brexit with no trade deal could cost UK economy £400billion by 2030'

We can make laws until we are blue in the face. But if you are company making products or services to sell elsewhere in the world, it is their laws and not ours that count. Which is why being somewhere like Europe is a good thing - you only have to deal with one set of laws to deal with, one lot of paperwork and one rate of VAT. Once we are out of the EU, the amount of bureaucracy and red tape will only go up for companies because they will have to deal with UK law and EU law. And then on top of that there will be the customs nightmare and the fact that hiring non-UK people will become a royal ball-ache. All for this fictional entity called sovereignty.

The same people couldn't even name which EU laws they are against.

Currency fluctuations are bigger than tariffs

Try telling that to Bombardier. Only a matter of time before more of our companies are slapped with high tarrifs. The US nor the rest of the world cares for us anymore.

Yea ok

1. That’s got nothing to do with us leaving the eu, infact they claim that bombardier have an unfair advantage because of EU subsidies paid to them.

2. It won’t become law, it’s illegal. Perhaps read up on the issue.

As for the no one cares, we’re one of the worlds leading economies, if no one cares about us they care about no one.

(a) They have become law, but are subject to an appeals procedure that Bombardier will probably lose

(b) They are not EU subsidies but UK and Quebec government subsidies.

(c) IN aviation as in many other industries subsidies are asymmetric, so my subsidies aren't subsidies and your subsidies are illegal. Accordingly the legal system is a poor way to resolve such disputes.

(d) The EuUis in a far better position than the UK to wage this war on our behalf. When Bush imposed tariffs on steel, the EU imposed duties on products where the key US producers were in marginal congressional seats. The tariffs were quickly lifted.

I still don't understand this argument. It is like saying, "I'd rather be outside the party in the rain with no food and drink, sitting in a puddle being spat on. After all, it is better than having to talk to people I sometimes disagree with."

How pathetic.

He's right about WTO rules dictating the quality of our exports we'd still be in NATO wrt defence. But yeah laws regarding humans would be under our control (and our gov has no excuse to not implement them properly)

Depends who you ask and regardless it’s a principal they want to make their own domestic laws in their own land. I’d call that democratic.

Well every political commentator on the tv says it’s illegal and the process has been brought about for political leverage.

Yea ok

1. That’s got nothing to do with us leaving the eu, infact they claim that bombardier have an unfair advantage because of EU subsidies paid to them.

2. It won’t become law, it’s illegal. Perhaps read up on the issue.

As for the no one cares, we’re one of the worlds leading economies, if no one cares about us they care about no one.

Can you find me a credible legal commentator who says that?

You'd call unelected Lords as democratic? Strange view if you ask me.

Let's not forget the fury of the leavers when the Court system intervened soon after the referendum.

Wtf is a legal commentator 😳

Yea ok

1. That’s got nothing to do with us leaving the eu, infact they claim that bombardier have an unfair advantage because of EU subsidies paid to them.

2. It won’t become law, it’s illegal. Perhaps read up on the issue.

As for the no one cares, we’re one of the worlds leading economies, if no one cares about us they care about no one.

and will continue to do so not because the regulations are necessary but because there are people employed to write them.

Erm making our own laws is mostly important for domestic reasons.

It is a random guess, firstly the things they are measuring (from the little mentioned in the article) can’t be measured as you don’t know the policies, investment or numbers for those areas.

Secondly I don’t need to disprove it, economists are well known for crap forecasting over a year and ludicrously way off on long range forecasting. You’re argument is one of assertion of authority based on job title, mine is track record and the unpredictability of the future.

As an example , how many recessions are built into the numbers? We have one on average every 7 years, we’re due one now and we would be due another before that time frame is up.

Also what numbers have they used and how have they used those numbers to extrapolate these figures?

which kind of puts our Brave Little England in perspective.

All the evidence of the postwar years is that the UK has been totally unable to stand up to US corporate interests.