What is considered an Elite University in the UK?

Bro you forgot Oxford, and unis like Warwick/Edinburgh.

A load of nonsense really. Russell Group shouldn't really come into it considering it is a self-selecting group of universities to try to get more research funding.

Throwback to the time a user made a thread saying London South Bank is a super prestigious uni.

Which thread was it?

So which universities should be removed?

And to be fair, there are different tiers of unis.

Are Russell groups universities still as prestigious as they used to be?

I'm not a fan of university tiers lists in general is the point that I'm trying to make. I only agree with the university of Bedfordshire being at the bottom of the pile/believe it to be the only university that you should actively try to avoid attending (not going to explain why). Other than that just go to any uni that you enjoy, forget about rankings unless you're interested in doing law, investment banking and maybe moving abroad to work.

Are Russell groups universities still as prestigious as they used to be?

There are many ways, but commonly used rankings are https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2023 for international, and https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings for UK-based rankings. I personally prefer international rankings to compare our unis to the world, and because the local unis uses stuff like "student satisfaction" (very subjective, and biases lower ranked unis).

For me, this is my overall perception. Some subjects are better, some subjects are worse. Some unis are at the upper end, some are at the lower end.

Tier 1 - Best: Oxbridge
Top 2 unis in UK, comparable to MIT/Harvard/Stanford, truly world-class in their unique ways.

Tier 2 - Prestigious: UCL, ICL (2+), Manchester, Edinburgh, LSE (2+), Bristol (2-), Warwick, Durham
The remaining stronger Russell Groups. Not as good as Oxbridge, but they're still great universities. International reputation not as great as Oxbridge, but their influence is definitely beyond the UK. 2+ and 2 are difficult to distinguish. Top 10 unis in UK.

Tier 3 - Decent: Glasgow, St Andrews (3+), KCL, Southampton, Leeds, Birmingham, Lancaster, Nottingham, Sheffield, Newcastle, QMUL, Bath, Cardiff (3-/4+), Royal Holloway (saved because of music), SOAS (saved because of arts) etc.
All but 0-4 Russell Groups are at this level or higher. Top 25-30 unis. Includes some which are world-class for a few subjects.

Tier 4 - Mediocre: QUB (4+/3-), Liverpool (4+/3-), Sussex, Loughborough (4+), Reading, Strathclyde, UEA, Oxford Brookes (4-), etc.
Run-of-the-mill unis, some are better than average, some are below average. Down to about top 50 UK.

Tier 5 - Poor: University of Kent and quite a few unis honestly
Prospects aren't great, not much there except maybe that odd specialist subject or two. Top 100 UK.

Tier 6 - Crappy: University of the West of England and a good few unis at this level
While not scams, the prospects are poor in most cases, unless you're lucky or in a better area than overall. Top 100-125 unis.

Tier 7 - Trash: Uni of Bedfordshire (7-), some Mickey Mouse degree-stampers
A lot of the degrees there are genuine scams. Only thing you'd be able to do is get over the degree stamp. But really, why are we funding these unis? About 6 unis here.

I would put St Andrews in Tier 2, think its ridiculous to suggest that its not in the same tier as Durham and Warwick.

To be fair, it's not a research powerhouse...

Although I could put St Andrews as Tier 2- though.

I agree that it really isn't, but I ascribe that to its size, its half the size of Durham, I think if St Andrews doubled its enrollment it would probably improve its research output but at the cost of its student satisfaction, as you get larger you aren't able to offer the same experience to your students. St Andrews and Durham are very similar though in nearly every other way.

Fair enough... in that case I'd put St Andrews in Tier 2-.

What other unis do you think i should change the ranking of?

Always very impressed when someone is open-minded ! The rest looks good, maybe KCL could be considered 3+, although locally probably a 3, it does have more of a larger research presence and worldwide is more well known than some of the other 3s, but i'm not particularly attached to that idea, only because you asked.

Always very impressed when someone is open-minded ! The rest looks good, maybe KCL could be considered 3+, although locally probably a 3, it does have more of a larger research presence and worldwide is more well known than some of the other 3s, but i'm not particularly attached to that idea, only because you asked.

Over half of applicant to this university cannot report for academic year, and as a result there are no school scholarships for all applicants.

If you qualify for some type of college or university scholarships and are able to make it to the end of the program, then you probably won't be allowed to attend these institutions for one single year. That means you have to take one out of four years off campus for a term or two of high school study.

How many years do these public college scholarships last?

There are many ways, but commonly used rankings are https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2023 for international, and https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings for UK-based rankings. I personally prefer international rankings to compare our unis to the world, and because the local unis uses stuff like "student satisfaction" (very subjective, and biases lower ranked unis).

For me, this is my overall perception. Some subjects are better, some subjects are worse. Some unis are at the upper end, some are at the lower end.

Tier 1 - Best: Oxbridge
Top 2 unis in UK, comparable to MIT/Harvard/Stanford, truly world-class in their unique ways.

Tier 2 - Prestigious: UCL, ICL (2+), Manchester, Edinburgh, LSE (2+), Bristol (2-), Warwick, Durham
The remaining stronger Russell Groups. Not as good as Oxbridge, but they're still great universities. International reputation not as great as Oxbridge, but their influence is definitely beyond the UK. 2+ and 2 are difficult to distinguish. Top 10 unis in UK.

Tier 3 - Decent: Glasgow, St Andrews (3+), KCL, Southampton, Leeds, Birmingham, Lancaster, Nottingham, Sheffield, Newcastle, QMUL, Bath, Cardiff (3-/4+), Royal Holloway (saved because of music), SOAS (saved because of arts) etc.
All but 0-4 Russell Groups are at this level or higher. Top 25-30 unis. Includes some which are world-class for a few subjects.

Tier 4 - Mediocre: QUB (4+/3-), Liverpool (4+/3-), Sussex, Loughborough (4+), Reading, Strathclyde, UEA, Oxford Brookes (4-), etc.
Run-of-the-mill unis, some are better than average, some are below average. Down to about top 50 UK.

Tier 5 - Poor: University of Kent and quite a few unis honestly
Prospects aren't great, not much there except maybe that odd specialist subject or two. Top 100 UK.

Tier 6 - Crappy: University of the West of England and a good few unis at this level
While not scams, the prospects are poor in most cases, unless you're lucky or in a better area than overall. Top 100-125 unis.

Tier 7 - Trash: Uni of Bedfordshire (7-), some Mickey Mouse degree-stampers
A lot of the degrees there are genuine scams. Only thing you'd be able to do is get over the degree stamp. But really, why are we funding these unis? About 6 unis here.

I roughly agree with your tiers but University of Kent in Tier 5... come on ...please move it up a tier (I went there and would love to see it promoted to mediocre)