Building Surveying Masters
I’m thinking of doing a part time conversion course/masters in building survey after getting a law degree a few years back and deciding it’s not the route I want to take. However, when I’m looking at job prospects I.e graduate building surveying jobs, they all want at least 1 years experience.
I don’t know how to go about this as no where will hire without experience so it’s kind of a catch 22 situation?
I could potentially have an opportunity to gain work experience as an administrative assistant in a real estate surveyors office, would this be beneficial to the building surveyors course and be classed as work experience?
Also someone said that there is better job prospects for quantity surveyors, can anyone shed any light on the above?
Thanks
I don’t know how to go about this as no where will hire without experience so it’s kind of a catch 22 situation?
I could potentially have an opportunity to gain work experience as an administrative assistant in a real estate surveyors office, would this be beneficial to the building surveyors course and be classed as work experience?
Also someone said that there is better job prospects for quantity surveyors, can anyone shed any light on the above?
Thanks
(Course leader for real estate at Birmingham City here - so I would say real estate is a good option, but anyway)
If you are looking at job adverts now then they are probably not part of the main graduate recruitment round which typically finishes late October/early November - in those cases they're not looking for 1yr+ experience but some genuine engagement with the industry.
Personally (see caveat above) I think there's more steady work as a real estate surveyor[1] - we're much more concerned with managing existing buildings or turning bits of land into developments. In an economic downturn there's obviously less new build work going on which is where QSs will have much of their work, so it's likely to get more competitive for work - but it is very well paid.
Longer term real estate also has very good prospects mostly in commercial property or the big house builders.
Most real estate masters conversion courses are focussed primarily on the commercial property market (that's where the money and the jobs are), and I do find the employers are very keen to recruit straight from university.
If you are looking at job adverts now then they are probably not part of the main graduate recruitment round which typically finishes late October/early November - in those cases they're not looking for 1yr+ experience but some genuine engagement with the industry.
Personally (see caveat above) I think there's more steady work as a real estate surveyor[1] - we're much more concerned with managing existing buildings or turning bits of land into developments. In an economic downturn there's obviously less new build work going on which is where QSs will have much of their work, so it's likely to get more competitive for work - but it is very well paid.
Longer term real estate also has very good prospects mostly in commercial property or the big house builders.
Most real estate masters conversion courses are focussed primarily on the commercial property market (that's where the money and the jobs are), and I do find the employers are very keen to recruit straight from university.
Original post by timleebcu
(Course leader for real estate at Birmingham City here - so I would say real estate is a good option, but anyway)
If you are looking at job adverts now then they are probably not part of the main graduate recruitment round which typically finishes late October/early November - in those cases they're not looking for 1yr+ experience but some genuine engagement with the industry.
Personally (see caveat above) I think there's more steady work as a real estate surveyor[1] - we're much more concerned with managing existing buildings or turning bits of land into developments. In an economic downturn there's obviously less new build work going on which is where QSs will have much of their work, so it's likely to get more competitive for work - but it is very well paid.
Longer term real estate also has very good prospects mostly in commercial property or the big house builders.
Most real estate masters conversion courses are focussed primarily on the commercial property market (that's where the money and the jobs are), and I do find the employers are very keen to recruit straight from university.
If you are looking at job adverts now then they are probably not part of the main graduate recruitment round which typically finishes late October/early November - in those cases they're not looking for 1yr+ experience but some genuine engagement with the industry.
Personally (see caveat above) I think there's more steady work as a real estate surveyor[1] - we're much more concerned with managing existing buildings or turning bits of land into developments. In an economic downturn there's obviously less new build work going on which is where QSs will have much of their work, so it's likely to get more competitive for work - but it is very well paid.
Longer term real estate also has very good prospects mostly in commercial property or the big house builders.
Most real estate masters conversion courses are focussed primarily on the commercial property market (that's where the money and the jobs are), and I do find the employers are very keen to recruit straight from university.
Amazing thank you so much for your reply!
When I’ve been looking at masters courses, there’s 3:
Real estate surveying
Quantity surveying
Building surveying
I am mostly interested in building surveying when I have looked at the modules on this course but would you say building surveying is not the way forward then? I have been told that there aren’t as many jobs for building surveyors, and I obviously want a career where there is going to be lots of job opportunities and a career where there is room for development!
I think QSing is appealing to me the least, just because I don’t have an interest as much in financial side to things but someone told me this is where all the money is?
It’s hard picking the right one as everyone tells you different things but any advice I could get right now would be really appreciated!
QS and RE are both money focussed but in different ways. A lot of QS is about cost control - (the stereotype of counting bricks) so how many bricks are needed when, what wastage might there be that needs accounting for, can you manage just in time delivery for maximum efficiency of a site. RE is much more about profit - what are the future income streams from a building going to be, how does that compare against other options, in a development what can you do in pre-letting, building a development in stages to ensure the income and minimise the risk.
BS will often have some costing work - pricing out repairs to a historic building, etc. Out of the three it definitely has far less engagement with numbers. Personally I do find the intellectual challenge of defect diagnosis interesting, but I do think there are more and wider opportunities with a general real estate masters (there are specialised real estate investment masters, which are fairly narrowly focussed on the investment market - very good pay if you can get it, but a small field)
If you have a look at the big property firms: CBRE, Savills, Cushman & Wakefield, JLL, etc they are often quite willing to let someone shadow a job for a few days, so that might be worth exploring, and they have people working in just about all built environment fields so that might be useful to look into. A quick google search for "RICS what surveyors do" could also be useful.
BS will often have some costing work - pricing out repairs to a historic building, etc. Out of the three it definitely has far less engagement with numbers. Personally I do find the intellectual challenge of defect diagnosis interesting, but I do think there are more and wider opportunities with a general real estate masters (there are specialised real estate investment masters, which are fairly narrowly focussed on the investment market - very good pay if you can get it, but a small field)
If you have a look at the big property firms: CBRE, Savills, Cushman & Wakefield, JLL, etc they are often quite willing to let someone shadow a job for a few days, so that might be worth exploring, and they have people working in just about all built environment fields so that might be useful to look into. A quick google search for "RICS what surveyors do" could also be useful.
Original post by timleebcu
QS and RE are both money focussed but in different ways. A lot of QS is about cost control - (the stereotype of counting bricks) so how many bricks are needed when, what wastage might there be that needs accounting for, can you manage just in time delivery for maximum efficiency of a site. RE is much more about profit - what are the future income streams from a building going to be, how does that compare against other options, in a development what can you do in pre-letting, building a development in stages to ensure the income and minimise the risk.
BS will often have some costing work - pricing out repairs to a historic building, etc. Out of the three it definitely has far less engagement with numbers. Personally I do find the intellectual challenge of defect diagnosis interesting, but I do think there are more and wider opportunities with a general real estate masters (there are specialised real estate investment masters, which are fairly narrowly focussed on the investment market - very good pay if you can get it, but a small field)
If you have a look at the big property firms: CBRE, Savills, Cushman & Wakefield, JLL, etc they are often quite willing to let someone shadow a job for a few days, so that might be worth exploring, and they have people working in just about all built environment fields so that might be useful to look into. A quick google search for "RICS what surveyors do" could also be useful.
BS will often have some costing work - pricing out repairs to a historic building, etc. Out of the three it definitely has far less engagement with numbers. Personally I do find the intellectual challenge of defect diagnosis interesting, but I do think there are more and wider opportunities with a general real estate masters (there are specialised real estate investment masters, which are fairly narrowly focussed on the investment market - very good pay if you can get it, but a small field)
If you have a look at the big property firms: CBRE, Savills, Cushman & Wakefield, JLL, etc they are often quite willing to let someone shadow a job for a few days, so that might be worth exploring, and they have people working in just about all built environment fields so that might be useful to look into. A quick google search for "RICS what surveyors do" could also be useful.
Thank you for all your help, I really appreciate it
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