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Reply 40

Zarathustra

2

englishstudent

And why not? :confused:

It's a good reason to sub IMO.

Meh, means they can get away with loads of **** without being neg-repped. The whole point in an anonymous rep system is that good/bad posts can be repped fairly on the basis of their content - if you have a system whereby certain people can see who reps them then it becomes unfair...there's always the fact that they could just neg-rep you back out of spite, and it makes them less likely to get neg-repped.
I know I've not bothered to neg-rep subs in the past for offensive posts that I would have neg-repped someone else for, just because I can't be bothered with the hassle of stressy PMs showing up in my inbox demanding explanations that I don't owe.

Imho, it's not fair even if they are paying. There are other reasons to sub; no need for the non-anonymous rep thing.

ZarathustraX

Reply 41

Ollie

OP

10

Zapsta

No, they prioritise smooth operation of the site, be that through locking/deleting thread or handing out warnings. Non-mods don't have that clouding their judgement of what would be best for the members.

Well I don't really spend anytime moderating anymore. I spend most of my time on here helping users out with their problems and adding new bits and bobs. Isn't that me and rich then? This is why I'm trying to get ideas off you.

Because mods can't leak info?

They don't seem to.

I think that's something to be discussed after we've decided on the council's proposed existence, rather than to influence the decision on whether it exists or not.

Whats the point if it's possible its not going to work?

Based on what? Are you suggesting that non-mod members are less able to reach 'proper' conclusions than moderators are? Part of the problem is that, in many members' eyes, the mods haven't been able to make correct decisions. The council would aid, not hinder.

In my experience, the moderators are much better at reaching decisions.

Reply 42

Vienna

12

Ollie

Well I don't really spend anytime moderating anymore. I spend most of my time on here helping users out with their problems and adding new bits and bobs. Isn't that me and rich then? This is why I'm trying to get ideas off you.

I dont think its possible to argue that the moderators fully represent the interests of the forum. I was also under the impression that this was not actually something we were looking to acheive?

In my experience, the moderators are much better at reaching decisions.

Why do you think that is? Is it because they are all of the same mindset and can "work better together" without conflicting interests from others on the forum with different views?

Reply 43

Ollie

OP

10

vienna95

Why do you think that is? Is it because they are all of the same mindset and can "work better together" without conflicting interests from others on the forum with different views?

They quite often have differences of opinion. They just seem more recpeptive to others people's, and are more willing to follow the majority.

Reply 44

Vienna

12

Ollie

and are more willing to follow the majority.

I wouldnt say that was something that ensured a fair representation of all members on the forum.

Id be interested in how receptive they are to those who they recognise as having differing opinions to the so called 'majority'?

It was my understanding that A was not seeking to make specific any broad representation of the forum, which would at least allow Zapsta's argument to be entertained, irrespective of its practicalities.

Reply 45

Zapsta

Ollie

Well I don't really spend anytime moderating anymore. I spend most of my time on here helping users out with their problems and adding new bits and bobs. Isn't that me and rich then? This is why I'm trying to get ideas off you.

Not really. I've already said this - your priorities are different, irrespective of how active your moderating may be.

Ollie

They don't seem to.

Neither do regular members.

Ollie

Whats the point if it's possible its not going to work?

Based on what? There are several effective ways in which the council members could be chosen. Just because it may seem a hard decision to make simply because it has not been paid due consideration, it doesn't mean that it makes the council an impossible prospect. I am merely saying that it is something that should not be paid due consideration until we have decided whether it shall exist or not.

Ollie

In my experience, the moderators are much better at reaching decisions.

As far as I am aware, there has been no occassion on which non-mods have worked together as a unit. And has Vienna has said and I have alluded to in my first point, moderators often find it so easy to make decisions because they are only supporting one point of view, which is basically the problem.

Reply 46

Golden Maverick

4

Look here

Any chance of it being switched back on?

Reply 47

Zarathustra

2

Bump.

Ollie, I posted a suggestion which was largely ignored...

Zarathustra

Suggestion:
I don't think subs should be able to see who reps them.

(Yes, I do plan to sub soon).

ZarathustraX

englishstudent

And why not? :confused:

It's a good reason to sub IMO.

Zarathustra

Meh, means they can get away with loads of **** without being neg-repped. The whole point in an anonymous rep system is that good/bad posts can be repped fairly on the basis of their content - if you have a system whereby certain people can see who reps them then it becomes unfair...there's always the fact that they could just neg-rep you back out of spite, and it makes them less likely to get neg-repped.
I know I've not bothered to neg-rep subs in the past for offensive posts that I would have neg-repped someone else for, just because I can't be bothered with the hassle of stressy PMs showing up in my inbox demanding explanations that I don't owe.

Imho, it's not fair even if they are paying. There are other reasons to sub; no need for the non-anonymous rep thing.

ZarathustraX

What do you think?

ZarathustraX

Reply 48

Sam2k

11

Zarathustra

Bump.

Ollie, I posted a suggestion which was largely ignored...

What do you think?

ZarathustraX

I don't know why people are scared to neg rep a sub. If you neg rep for a good reason then most subs aren't going to neg rep you back. If you don't do it for a good reason then watch out.

Reply 49

Ollie

OP

10

Zarathustra

Bump.

Ollie, I posted a suggestion which was largely ignored...

What do you think?

ZarathustraX

Hey, well yeah that would be nice. However I fear that people wouldn't bother signing up...

We need some sort of product and lasting potential for subs.

Reply 50

idiopathic

15

Ollie

Hey, well yeah that would be nice. However I fear that people wouldn't bother signing up...

We need some sort of product and lasting potential for subs.

make another feature for subs.

what happened to the calender?

Reply 51

Bezza

2

Why are full name and where you study now required fields if you want to change your profile? Seems stupid to me

Reply 52

Sam2k

11

Bezza

Why are full name and where you study now required fields if you want to change your profile? Seems stupid to me

You don't have to put in your full name. And theoretically you could lie about where you study.

Reply 53

Logan

4

i would like to suggest that ip banning should be very specific, because until now i cant access this very nice forums at home, and that kinda makes me sad :frown:

Reply 54

Bezza

2

Moncal

You don't have to put in your full name. And theoretically you could lie about where you study.

Err, I did realise that! My point was that I didn't want to put my name or where I studied down, I was just going to put some other info which you always used to be able to do (my profile currently only has sex: M in it)

Reply 55

Sam2k

11

Bezza

Err, I did realise that! My point was that I didn't want to put my name or where I studied down, I was just going to put some other info which you always used to be able to do (my profile currently only has sex: M in it)

The requirement is for security I'm sure.

Reply 56

sleepyeba

9

Please can you make the additional smilies box easier to use - it takes a while navigating, and having to watch each smiley and work out what they are doing.
Maybe make the table like this:

smiley image | code | description

p.s. there seem to be two :eek : types - :eek: