Obama needs to get real about Guantánamo

Innocent until proven guilty, it's barbaric that these people aren't tried and instead are just held captive.

Are you surprised? After going through that crap do you really think that they're going to come out and love us?

Maybe they should have been tried properly and if deemed a threat actually put in a proper prison instead of being tortured!

Terrorists whop returned to terror

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/4230850/Released-Guantnamo-Bay-detainees-return-to-terrorism.html

And waterboarding is in no way torture. Torture is defined by permanent physical or mental scarring. The US walks a fine line of course, but they need to as no pressure gets nothing and real torture can be completely inhumane.

By that logic, the American people don't deserve humans rights because they have been disregarding them in regards to Guantanamo and even the Socialists during the Cold War.

Its not like they were innocent before and then picked up a new cause. They RETURNED to terrorism. You really think theyd like us more if they were in prison? Theyd be torn to shreds in prison lets get serious.

The prisons are already overflowing anyways.

Personally i think they should just kill them when they get captured on the battlefield, its reallly a shame America is bashed for trying to do the right thing.

Its not like they were innocent before and then picked up a new cause. They RETURNED to terrorism. You really think theyd like us more if they were in prison? Theyd be torn to shreds in prison lets get serious.

The prisons are already overflowing anyways.

Personally i think they should just kill them when they get captured on the battlefield, its reallly a shame America is bashed for trying to do the right thing.

That may be your assertion, but it worked. The CIA report showed it saved lives. The CIA are independent of the bush administration, even now under Obama, they are still adamant that it saved lives.

This all helped kill/capture most of al qaeda's top people and supress some seriously bad plots.

I think you have the image in your mind where the americans say "tell me a name or i'll rip your nails out."

How silly. It's a war against non muslims, so called infidels propelled by Quranic verses. A war against the west because they grant equality for all races, sexes, orientation much to their dislike e.t.c.

Ah and me joining the Army? Well I would be joining an official organisation so would be awarded prisoner of war status like the Baathists

I think that they should be tried in military courts (not civilian as it's a military matter) and the leaders should all be executed by Lethal Injection or Electric Chair. The rest should get many years in prison and those minority which are not guilty should be deported back to their own country. I am sick of countries like Portugal, Botswana being asked to take them.

It's like the case of the Somali Pirate who stabbed one of the americans on the ship they hijacked, and was later caught. He said he was happy to get to go New York and has asked for his family to be allowed to come!

But wouldn't that put the Americans in the same boat as inhuman terrorists?

But of course you are a neocon and you're just the other extreme end of the scale with the other lot of inherently evil people...so that would make sense, yes!

They have no interest in the west, they want us to stay out of the east.

Its not like they were innocent before and then picked up a new cause. They RETURNED to terrorism. You really think theyd like us more if they were in prison? Theyd be torn to shreds in prison lets get serious.

The prisons are already overflowing anyways.

Personally i think they should just kill them when they get captured on the battlefield, its reallly a shame America is bashed for trying to do the right thing.

They want to establish an Islamic Caliphate over the world, because that is what the Quran preaches, one government with Shariya law.

Small areas in the west with high muslim populations are demanding shariya style courts, divorce rules e.t.c They despite the western system.

Why keep them in US prisons? Kill them there and get it done with.

Not at all...terrorist blow up kindergardens, planes and hide weapons in hospitals to inflict maximum damage on both sides.

All Im suggesting is that instead of capturing a terrorist for a drawn out trial you just kill them right there on the battlefield.

Because you clearly dont understand what a war is, how your moral compass needs major fixing, mixed with your Liberal utopian view on the world, I feel that I can rest my case.

Because summarily executing an idiot squad home guard militia, a modern day Judean People's Front with a few fanatics and a bunch of young men dumb enough to take them seriously who think they are making a stand against looters, those bloody sunnis/shiites (delete as appropriate) round the corner and the Hamburger eating Johnny Foreigner who are trying to come into their neighborhood doesn't win hearts and minds. Instead, it encourages people to stop thinking about looters and those bloody (other) muslims alltogether and start just thinking about the Americans.

Not at all...terrorist blow up kindergardens, planes and hide weapons in hospitals to inflict maximum damage on both sides.

All Im suggesting is that instead of capturing a terrorist for a drawn out trial you just kill them right there on the battlefield.

Because you clearly dont understand what a war is, how your moral compass needs major fixing, mixed with your Liberal utopian view on the world, I feel that I can rest my case.