Is Britain "Too White" As A Country??
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Is Britain "Too White" As A Country?
There's a lot of talk recently about how diversity is necessary, but how far do we go? And how do we judge what is a good and strong/positive multiracial country?
When you look at other western countries like Canada, America, Australia, the vast majority of its immigrants are not white these days and are probably heading for a more diverse future, so much so to the point that these nations will have very different demographic look to them in 50 years time. They will have great bragging rights you could say when it comes to multiracialism and diversity than Britain or most european countries will maybe not have. You often here quotes like "Hollywood is too white" "the tories are too white" but what defines what is "too white"? So I'm wondering if people could put Britain in the same context?
Like I say people brand multiracialism as a good thing, very few want to go back to a 100% white society but how multiracial do we need to go to satisfy the vast majority of people, particularly liberals? I personally think it's completely necessary but I know many of my opponents will disagree. Are we still not multiracial enough compared to some of our western rivals?? What do you think??
When you look at other western countries like Canada, America, Australia, the vast majority of its immigrants are not white these days and are probably heading for a more diverse future, so much so to the point that these nations will have very different demographic look to them in 50 years time. They will have great bragging rights you could say when it comes to multiracialism and diversity than Britain or most european countries will maybe not have. You often here quotes like "Hollywood is too white" "the tories are too white" but what defines what is "too white"? So I'm wondering if people could put Britain in the same context?
Like I say people brand multiracialism as a good thing, very few want to go back to a 100% white society but how multiracial do we need to go to satisfy the vast majority of people, particularly liberals? I personally think it's completely necessary but I know many of my opponents will disagree. Are we still not multiracial enough compared to some of our western rivals?? What do you think??
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Would have been a better title, not done to death and not so provocative...
Would have been a better title, not done to death and not so provocative...
Original post by Gnobe
There's a lot of talk recently about how diversity is necessary
They will have great bragging rights you could say when it comes to multiracialism and diversity
What you seem to be suggesting smacks of social engineering and I really don't think that anyone is that bothered about exactly how many non-white people live in Britain.
To be honest, this is a bizarre thread, and at the end of the day, doesn't matter, people are people and it doesn't matter if they are black, white, blue or purple.
And I don't think that people thing of multi-racialism as a 'good thing', and most don't think of it as a 'bad thing' either. It is just is. And there certainly isn't a clamour of being calling for more African's to be imported to make us more 'multiracial', that'd be bizarre.
If we want to encourage immigration then we should encourage it because those people have skills we need or are willing to fill jobs that aren't beng filled and perform services because they aren't being filled. It shouldn't be because they happen to be browner than the average Brit.
Also, 'bragging rights'? Really? The day that wealthy and advanced western nations start telling other that 'We have more black people than you', like some bizarre version of a playground argument, then that may be the day that I go into hiding from society.
To be honest, this is a bizarre thread, and at the end of the day, doesn't matter, people are people and it doesn't matter if they are black, white, blue or purple.
And I don't think that people thing of multi-racialism as a 'good thing', and most don't think of it as a 'bad thing' either. It is just is. And there certainly isn't a clamour of being calling for more African's to be imported to make us more 'multiracial', that'd be bizarre.
If we want to encourage immigration then we should encourage it because those people have skills we need or are willing to fill jobs that aren't beng filled and perform services because they aren't being filled. It shouldn't be because they happen to be browner than the average Brit.
Also, 'bragging rights'? Really? The day that wealthy and advanced western nations start telling other that 'We have more black people than you', like some bizarre version of a playground argument, then that may be the day that I go into hiding from society.
Mate you are all confused.
When people say "the tories are too white" or "hollywood is too white"
what they MEAN is
"The amount of white people in the tories are disproportionately represented compared to the british population".
I.e. 14% of the british population is non-white, but 14% of the tories are not correspondingly non-white. There is a bias in representation. This is bad because it means certain races are being excluded.
This is COMPLETELY different to asking whether an entire nations population should be a certain skin colour - skin colour should be irrelevant. It's absolutely sickening you would want to diminish a race's presence just for the sake of it.
When people say "the tories are too white" or "hollywood is too white"
what they MEAN is
"The amount of white people in the tories are disproportionately represented compared to the british population".
I.e. 14% of the british population is non-white, but 14% of the tories are not correspondingly non-white. There is a bias in representation. This is bad because it means certain races are being excluded.
This is COMPLETELY different to asking whether an entire nations population should be a certain skin colour - skin colour should be irrelevant. It's absolutely sickening you would want to diminish a race's presence just for the sake of it.
Original post by Gnobe
There's a lot of talk recently about how diversity is necessary, but how far do we go? And how do we judge what is a good and strong/positive multiracial country?
When you look at other western countries like Canada, America, Australia, the vast majority of its immigrants are not white these days and are probably heading for a more diverse future, so much so to the point that these nations will have very different demographic look to them in 50 years time. They will have great bragging rights you could say when it comes to multiracialism and diversity than Britain or most european countries will maybe not have. You often here quotes like "Hollywood is too white" "the tories are too white" but what defines what is "too white"? So I'm wondering if people could put Britain in the same context?
Like I say people brand multiracialism as a good thing, very few want to go back to a 100% white society but how multiracial do we need to go to satisfy the vast majority of people, particularly liberals? I personally think it's completely necessary but I know many of my opponents will disagree. Are we still not multiracial enough compared to some of our western rivals?? What do you think??
When you look at other western countries like Canada, America, Australia, the vast majority of its immigrants are not white these days and are probably heading for a more diverse future, so much so to the point that these nations will have very different demographic look to them in 50 years time. They will have great bragging rights you could say when it comes to multiracialism and diversity than Britain or most european countries will maybe not have. You often here quotes like "Hollywood is too white" "the tories are too white" but what defines what is "too white"? So I'm wondering if people could put Britain in the same context?
Like I say people brand multiracialism as a good thing, very few want to go back to a 100% white society but how multiracial do we need to go to satisfy the vast majority of people, particularly liberals? I personally think it's completely necessary but I know many of my opponents will disagree. Are we still not multiracial enough compared to some of our western rivals?? What do you think??
Saying that any country is 'too [insert any ethnicity here]' is racist. A country is how it is in terms of demographics - political views on how diverse a country should be or become are just that - political opinions and racist ones at that. As most civilised people accept that all races are equal, any claim that a country is 'too much' like any one ethnicity including caucasian is just as racist as slapping the label of being 'too black' or 'too muslim' like the EDL would.
I mean, can you imagine the uproar if I were to seriously say that 'Nigeria is too black'?
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Original post by Gnobe
There's a lot of talk recently about how diversity is necessary, but how far do we go? And how do we judge what is a good and strong/positive multiracial country?
When you look at other western countries like Canada, America, Australia, the vast majority of its immigrants are not white these days and are probably heading for a more diverse future, so much so to the point that these nations will have very different demographic look to them in 50 years time. They will have great bragging rights you could say when it comes to multiracialism and diversity than Britain or most european countries will maybe not have. You often here quotes like "Hollywood is too white" "the tories are too white" but what defines what is "too white"? So I'm wondering if people could put Britain in the same context?
Like I say people brand multiracialism as a good thing, very few want to go back to a 100% white society but how multiracial do we need to go to satisfy the vast majority of people, particularly liberals? I personally think it's completely necessary but I know many of my opponents will disagree. Are we still not multiracial enough compared to some of our western rivals?? What do you think??
When you look at other western countries like Canada, America, Australia, the vast majority of its immigrants are not white these days and are probably heading for a more diverse future, so much so to the point that these nations will have very different demographic look to them in 50 years time. They will have great bragging rights you could say when it comes to multiracialism and diversity than Britain or most european countries will maybe not have. You often here quotes like "Hollywood is too white" "the tories are too white" but what defines what is "too white"? So I'm wondering if people could put Britain in the same context?
Like I say people brand multiracialism as a good thing, very few want to go back to a 100% white society but how multiracial do we need to go to satisfy the vast majority of people, particularly liberals? I personally think it's completely necessary but I know many of my opponents will disagree. Are we still not multiracial enough compared to some of our western rivals?? What do you think??
Why do we need to be diverse? Sure it can be a good thing and we should do nothing to oppose other cultures existing in Britain provided they do not cause harm. But why should we encourage it? You seem to be pretty much saying that there is something wrong with being white or white culture.
Original post by Historophilia
What you seem to be suggesting smacks of social engineering and I really don't think that anyone is that bothered about exactly how many non-white people live in Britain.
Not according to a yougov poll done last year. 73% of respondants said they would be unhappy if Britain became a white minority state at some point this century.
No.
Would you say China has too many chinese people?
Would you say China has too many chinese people?
Original post by Akbar2k7
I'm brown(white skinned but an Asian) I think Britain has a perfect balance.
Just curious. How can you be brown and white at the same time?
Original post by Sharpshooter
Not according to a yougov poll done last year. 73% of respondants said they would be unhappy if Britain became a white minority state at some point this century.
Well perhaps that's the case, but considering the fact that the non-white population of Britain is about 10%, then this would take a hell of a long time to happen. And it's so unlikely that I bet the people asked in the poll had never thought about the issue before.
Original post by Freier._.lance
Just curious. How can you be brown and white at the same time?
Would guess he has quite a pale complexion.
Original post by Gnobe
how multiracial do we need to go to satisfy the vast majority of people, particularly liberals?
Why do you place the satisfaction of liberals above the satisfaction of conservatives? A liberal viewpoint on something isn't automatically superior simply because it is liberal. The moronic hypocrisy of this type of social engineering is astonishing; 'So we aren't seen as racists, we need to ensure that there are less white people around'.
"too white" seems quite racist, I think.
Is there anything wrong with being non-diverse? I think it's just as good as being diverse. Are white people inferior, thus Britain needs more ethnic diversity? That's the message I get from this thread, kinda racist.
It is the same as saying Africa is too black; or Japan is too Japanese.
Is there anything wrong with being non-diverse? I think it's just as good as being diverse. Are white people inferior, thus Britain needs more ethnic diversity? That's the message I get from this thread, kinda racist.
It is the same as saying Africa is too black; or Japan is too Japanese.
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Agree with MAPW
No.
The question is pretty, well, questionable
I don't know of many people who want diversity FOR DIVERSITY'S SAKE.
The issue with places like "white" hollywood is the glass ceiling that keeps minorities AND women out, as there is the feeling (whether true or not!) that there is not a level and fair playing field.
Funny how people come up with imaginary arguments from the "other side", as I've never HEARD any of these "liberals" you refer to. I think, as usual, you're framing an argument in a way that will make your so called opinion look bad
No.
The question is pretty, well, questionable
I don't know of many people who want diversity FOR DIVERSITY'S SAKE.
The issue with places like "white" hollywood is the glass ceiling that keeps minorities AND women out, as there is the feeling (whether true or not!) that there is not a level and fair playing field.
Funny how people come up with imaginary arguments from the "other side", as I've never HEARD any of these "liberals" you refer to. I think, as usual, you're framing an argument in a way that will make your so called opinion look bad
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