@NickLCFC did you write this yourself? If so:
- I completely agree with your points. You have completely destroyed UK BLM's argument
- How do you have so much spare time to write this stuff lol

Reply 29

F.Nietzsche

Original post by NickLCFC

Guys, this is 2016 and you want interracial porn to be removed?! What are you, some kind of racist bigot?

The only ebony I like is my wooden dinner table. :colonhash:

Reply 30

username1969391

Original post by Trapz99

@NickLCFC did you write this yourself? If so:
- I completely agree with your points. You have completely destroyed UK BLM's argument
- How do you have so much spare time to write this stuff lol

I am currently in a hotel room in Sheffield bored out of my mind. I have all the spare time in the world :u:

Reply 31

Bang Outta Order

Original post by F.Nietzsche

We have a UK BLM movement now?

I quit.

Aha! You are black!

Reply 32

StrawbAri

Some people are very pained.
RIP thread
Sorry @NickLCFC looks like all your hard work typing that up has gone to **** :console:

Reply 33

F.Nietzsche

Original post by 0to100

Aha! You are black!

I meant we as in we the British, the people of the UK.

Detective skills - 0/10

Reply 34

username1022139

If black people only represent 3% of the population, then explain these:

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Maybe black people have a disproportionate involvement with the justice system because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime.

Excellent thread by the way, OP.

Original post by NickLCFC

Guys, this is 2016 and you want interracial porn to be removed?! What are you, some kind of racist bigot?

I think equality demands some girl on girl as well.

Or am I being a misogynist?

Reply 36

Bang Outta Order

Original post by jake4198

If black people only represent 3% of the population, then explain these:

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Maybe black people have a disproportionate involvement with the justice system because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime.

Excellent thread by the way, OP.

It's sad when you want to defend people and can't because the evidence is stacked high against those same folks. The excuse that black poverty comes from generational affects of slavery and Jim Crow only hold when black people who try to get an education and try to get work and try to join academic and extracurricular clubs and societies, and are stopped as individuals for no good reason.

Reply 37

Bang Outta Order

Original post by JamesN88

I think equality demands some girl on girl as well.

Or am I being a misogynist?

Nah more like chauvinist

Reply 38

Bang Outta Order

Original post by lonyeka

I'm black and I don't really understand what BLM UK it protesting for either.

Well as a black person I'm sure you've dealt with racism. Indirect (laws/policies that work against you and your particular situations like benefit cuts affected a lot of all kinds of people but also black; the best schools are grammar schools and the recruiting process has the same affects as I mentioned benefit cuts have) or direct racism like being called racial slurs and that.

Reply 39

username521617

Original post by NickLCFC

1,562 deaths in police custody in my lifetime. 0 convictions."
Very misleading. One would think they are referring to black deaths in police custody when this is the total number of deaths for all races. Regardless, deaths in police custody are NOT the fault of the police 99.9% of the time. What accounts for these deaths are things like vehicular pursuits, road traffic incidents, etc. See more here.

And of the 1,562 deaths in England and Wales since 1990, 156 were of non-white individuals. In other words, just 10%. Funny that they'd leave that out. What were the racial demographics of England and Wales again?

Original post by NickLCFC

"Black people are up to 37 times more likely to be stopped and searched."
This is just a complete lie. Take a look at 'Stop and search search statistics 2013-14' for Wales and England. Refer to 'SS.11':

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White people stopped and searched - 635,497

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Black people stopped and searched - 100,587

In England and Wales, white people make up ~85% of the population whilst black people make up ~3.3% of the population. If you adjust the figures for each race so that they are 100% of the population, you get the following:

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White people stopped and searched (if 100% of population) - 747,643

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Black people stopped and searched (if 100% of population) - 3,048,090

In other words, black people are ~4x more likely to be stopped and searched by police, not 37x. This figure can generally be justified when you factor in the higher crime rate among black people.

Much of this is also due to geographic factors. Most stop and search actions don't occur in low-crime areas like rural Cornwall and suburban Cambridge; they occur in high-crime urban areas where black people will be more than 3.3% of the population. In which case, it's better to use the demographics of these areas as our proxy. Therefore the 4x figure (which is based on general UK demographics) is probably going to be even lower when we take this into account.

Original post by NickLCFC

"More likely to be arrested."
This is because crime rates are higher among black people. See the statistics on race and the criminal justice system from 2014 here. Black people make up 3% of the UK population yet are clearly over-represented in most criminal offences - Robbery is an obvious example...

Yup, and again, geography.

Original post by NickLCFC

"Black people face far more severe sentencing than white people for the same offence."
It is true that black people receive a longer custodial sentence on average. However, there is no clear evidence to suggest they receive a harsher sentence for the same offence.

There is a valid reason for differences in sentence lengths and people shouldn't always jump to the conclusion of racism. Black people are likely to receive longer sentence on average because of the prominence in the specific TYPES of crime they commit.

This is also due to the way having prior convictions tends to increase sentences. A black person is statistically more likely to have a criminal record, meaning he will probably be getting more time.

Original post by NickLCFC

"To be a black woman in 2016 means that you are almost three times more likely to be unemployed than a white woman. To be a black child in this country means you're three times more likely to be permanently excluded from school."

Two words: single parenthood.

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