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The Independent vs. The Guardian

Reply 40

Skadoosh

12

Neither. They have more advertisements inside them than actual comment and news.

Reply 41

Sariya

11

Both about on par with eachother.

Once upon a time, the Times was the better paper. Alas for lost quality. =\

Reply 42

iwilson03

16

Until recently I only read the Daily Mail and the Times, now I read the Guardian and the BBC website as well as sometimes the Times website plus random blogs and google searches.

Personally I find the Independent immensely boring.

Reply 43

Rawss

Independent takes the nod for me because, as an ex-pat, I really enjoy their world pieces and have a good wide range of intellectual topics. They did a cracking piece on post-Celtic tiger, pre-Lisbon II Ireland that was unbiased and hit the nail on the head - I think it is safe to say that you wouldn't have found that in any other UK-based paper. I also like they way they are fairly central and aren't affiliated with one party or media mogul - so they pretty much do what it says on the tin.

Sometimes I find the Guardian's opinion to be left-field just for the sake of it, rather than based on rationality and research, which I think lets them down somewhat. But because there is no Sunday Independent, I buy the Observer as the next best thing.

Reply 44

Shuvel

kirsty142

The Guardian because the Sunday edition takes me 4 days to read :biggrin:

Didn't think they did the Gaurdian on a sunday? havn't seen it in shops :/

Reply 45

rob6709

7

Both **** london loving papers (i only read the papers for sport lol).

Reply 46

kirsty142

12

Shuvel

Didn't think they did the Gaurdian on a sunday? havn't seen it in shops :/

Sorry, was thinking of The Telegraph :rolleyes:

Reply 47

marymary44

OP

2

Hey guys,
Thanks so much for all your responses, some really interesting stuff! I've made a quick survey based on your responses that it would be great to get some numbers for. It'll only take you 30 seconds, and so if you've got a spare minute I'd really appreciate any Guardian or Independent readers filling it out: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=XqK5EQxIR_2bGX7v_2b4cJjlAg_3d_3d

Thanks everyone!

Reply 48

[Shea]

I just took the survey :smile:

Reply 49

Cooljack

the guardian, because it has charlie brooker and costs 40p

Reply 50

tom//

17

i used to like the independent but then i realised its just an overpriced version of the mirror. never read the guardian. times ftw :smile:

Reply 51

fox_the_fix

13

International herald tribune > both

Reply 52

marymary44

OP

2

thanks shea. anyone else got a quick minute to do the survey? :smile:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?s...b4cJjlAg_3d_3d

Reply 53

Norfolkadam

18

I used to read the Independent because it was tabloid-sized and left-wing but my friend introduced me to The Guardian and I never went back. It's got really interesting op-ed pieces, I really like the G2 section and the Saturday edition has The Guide and Weekend magazine. It's also in full colour and despite it being a little big I do actually like the size. It's kind of a cross between compact and broadsheet.

Smack

I think the Independent is more student friendly. I actually read The Times, though, and struggle to see the need for two leftish newspapers when one will do.

Yeah I know what you mean, because it's only fair since the right wing only has The Telegraph, The Times, The Daily Mail, The Daily Express, The Sun, The Financial Times, The Evening Standard and The Metro and possibly the Daily Mirror now too.

Cooljack

the guardian, because it has charlie brooker and costs 40p

Is that the student rate? I pay £1 :nooo:

Norfolkadam

Yeah I know what you mean, because it's only fair since the right wing only has The Telegraph, The Times, The Daily Mail, The Daily Express, The Sun, The Financial Times, The Evening Standard and The Metro and possibly the Daily Mirror now too.

Of the newspapers you listed only two are actual newspapers that are 'right-wing': The Times and The Telegraph. The Financial Times is not right wing and The Times is ... well, fairly moderate. The rest are tabloid babble not worth mentioning.

Reply 55

cubismdream

8

Yay for the Charlie Brooker love (Y) - although I really don't like You Have Been Watching, but we're not talking about TV :p:

I prefer The Guardian personally (yes, the lefty-ness of it), even though I regularly read both.

Reply 56

johnw1

8

Aphotic Cosmos

Unpatriotic? Is it unpatriotic to highlight the gaping flaws in British society and our political system? To expose the work of amoral/immoral corporations? [Oh Hai Trafigura!] To question rather than to accept?

It is as British as anything else to challenge beliefs and to seek the truth, rather than to accept lies fed us by our undemocratic government.

What papers do you read? The Times? Sun? Mail? Certainly the first two clearly promote the agenda of Rupert Murdoch and not of their readerbase, and the latter two are guilty of incredibly shoddy, base journalism.

Actually disagree RE The Times - think the journalism is pretty independent-minded. Obviously the Mail is foul but makes an entertaining, if also hugely irritating, read.

I prefer the Indie to The Guardian personally as I just see it as completely going its own way and doesn't follow the media trends. Also like some of the opinion piece writers. It falls down (probably due to it being a much smaller enterprise than its rivals) on the sports sections where The Times win for me.

Reply 57

Bosseye

1

What does unpatriotic mean. Cause I'm a Somali person who feels english, loves the Scots for being the best they can be and enjoys the northern Irish for the jovial disposition. If unpatriotic means kill other human being because they are not subjuncted to your will count me out

Reply 58

Bosseye

1

I read the BBC wibsite and it's in a very bad moment. A cross between the sun and conservative agenda. However I still read it because it tells me how humans are trying to get one over eachother. Never say the government are going to collect TV licence and then say we have free press at the BBC. Beg like the guardian and be free and let the socialist control your agenda. Even though it's 70% correct

Reply 59

Just my opinion

20

Two cheeks of the same arse.

The Independent vs. The Guardian

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