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Just to put it straight, if someone eats fish he is NOT a vegetarian.
Merk that Sike of a Mike
As I said before lol, these arguments end up being so fallacious...can you please tell me how on earth you jumped from the first 4 lines to that final line? You mentioned nothing of eating/killing animals in those premises.
Edit: typo


I bet you can't give the quality that makes humans deserve consideration without either looking like an evil **** or being inconsistent in applying that quality to non-humans.
tomheppy
I bet you can't give the quality that makes humans deserve consideration without either looking like an evil **** or being inconsistent in applying that quality to non-humans.

Erm if you actually read what i wrote then you would have realised i was criticising the view that somehow pain is created by killing them which is not so, especially with free range chicken. I was not arguing against the notion of positive rights.
Btw apparently vegetarianism is an eating disorder:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/giles_coren/article6031230.ece
what do you say to that??? :biggrin:
Merk that Sike of a Mike
Erm if you actually read what i wrote then you would have realised i was criticising the view that somehow pain is created by killing them which is not so, especially with free range chicken. I was not arguing against the notion of positive rights.
Btw apparently vegetarianism is an eating disorder:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/giles_coren/article6031230.ece
what do you say to that??? :biggrin:


Have you ever been to a slaughterhouse? How could you possibly know whether an animal suffers? Many animals have been proven to be conscious after stunning. I say meat-eaters should back the **** off and stop trying to excuse themselves with such bull.

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