Your View On Suicide

i see it as God gives you life & God takes life, therefore its up to God when you leave the world, not something you should take into your own hands & take the gift that God gave you. But thats just me

What if the person had no family? Would you still consider it selfish? Would you still consider it immoral if there was no familial/friendship ties?

But if God controls everything, then it is in his "design" for those people to take their own lives.

i dno if somebody else has said this, but surely its more selfish for people to expect someone who's suffering, to continue suffering, especially if they have mental illness or something.
it's their life, their death might h ave an impact on other people, yet theyll only be a slight part of

eone to live through hell

I'd be surprised if anyone would brand someone like you Uncle as selfish...he's clearly ill and manic depression is a nightmare condition for everyone concerned.


Clinical depression is another matter entirely...these people are normally well aware that something isn't right (having had depression myself and fought my way out of it with a good deal of help, I'm only too aware of just how bad it can be). A lot of depressed people can't face getting the help they need so they end it...that's cowardice! People with high debts or similar who end it are just being selfish - they leave their problems for their family to cope with.

I disagree with this, I have OCD and at times it has been so severe I just haven't wanted to live anymore, infact I did try a couple of times to end it all. Mental illness is suffering on such a high level, yet it can be helped in so many ways. Now, looking back I can't believe that if I had of succeeded I wouldn't be here today, there are so many things I would have missed out on and there's so much to live for. Not even taking into account the effect my death would have had on my family, I'm so, so grateful that I am here today and can look forward to a tomorrow.

I think it is the easy way out.

And if none of those ways work?

You can call suicide selfish as much as you like, but the state of someone's mental health who is comtemplating it really can't be held liable. I don't think it's the cowards way out, and anyone who calls it such has never had to deal with it in real life.

There's a good chance none of these things will work for some time, I had medication, CBT, psycologists all thrown at me and they didn't work for a good two years. Eventually I decided for myself that I couldn't and didn't want to live like that anymore. Then I did it with CBT and got my life back on track. So the point is it's very possible and normal for things not to work for quite some time, but eventually better days will come and that fact shouldn't be lost sight of.

When you want to do it everyday for months and hold on for your family because you don't want them to hurt because of you, yet you feel so sad that it feels as though the sadness itself will kill you slowly if you don't kill yourself...I can understand why some ultimately do it.

Is euthanasia for cancer or alzheimer's the "easy way out"?

Even if it was, what's wrong with that? No one does things the hard way. Should we ban calculators?

There is a difference.
If you are killing yourself because you are miserable then yeah you are wrong to do it (and not thinking about the people in your life who will have to deal with your death).
In the case of euthanasia for someone who is terminal then I don't think it is wrong.
I think it should always be the person's choice whether they are ill or not. I definitely disagree with anyone making the decision for you though.
And yes. It is the easy way out. Death is always going to be easier than living. Once you're out, you're out.

So in your view someone should spend, I dunno, 70 years being thoroughly miserable, plagued by thoughts of killing themselves daily, not able to get joy from anything and simply living in order that people who know them won't feel sad? And that's not a tinsy bit selfish of the people who know them?

I'm curious, have you ever experienced depression? (I mean proper depression not "omg he dumped me I'm like soooo depressed" )

I disagree with this, I have OCD and at times it has been so severe I just haven't wanted to live anymore, infact I did try a couple of times to end it all. Mental illness is suffering on such a high level, yet it can be helped in so many ways. Now, looking back I can't believe that if I had of succeeded I wouldn't be here today, there are so many things I would have missed out on and there's so much to live for. Not even taking into account the effect my death would have had on my family, I'm so, so grateful that I am here today and can look forward to a tomorrow.