BNP is on its knees!!

This is what happens when you have bad ambitions.

Reply 25

werd123

11

1950s britain, a land of peace.
2000s britain, a more heterogenous country, occasional killings in places like toxteth or st. paul's.
rwanda, an even more heterogenous country, genocide.

Talk about brainwashed. You do realize that crime in the UK peaked in the early 90's, way before any period of heightened immigration, right? You do realize that most crime is actually at it's lowest for a very very long time, right? You do also realize that most murders are committed within people of the same race, and murder is very very rarely racially motivated, right? No ofcourse you don't, because your ignorance is astounding. Go and do your research first next time, tah.

the pattern is simple. for instance japan is a very homogenous country. result: far less murder than britain. america is very heterogenous. result: murder is pretty commonplace.

Actually the murder rate can be put down to the fact that guns are available and commonplace in the USA, so comparing their statistics with ours is completely useless. You'll also be interested to know that Canada, Belgium and New Zealand all have higher murder rates than the UK, despite the fact they're less multi-cultural.

I don't know who told you all this rubbish but it's all propaganda straight from the BNP, none of which is backed up by true facts at all.

Reply 26

donuticus

12

Mr. Orange

Found this post on Stormfront:

Found on this thread, basically there is a growing view in the BNP camp that Griffin is in it solely to make money and not fight for Nationalism (well done Griffin, anyone that sets back those White Nationalists for a good decade or so is a good man in my eyes)

The General Election was a disaster for the BNP and many supporters are thinking their party has been hijacked by lefties.

Anyway, your thoughts TSR?

I always like the idea that GRiffin is an MI5 plant. The more I see him the more I believe it. Not one person could manage to make themselves, their beliefs and their parties ideologies look so ridiculous every time they are given a national platform.

THinking about it he would have been an ideal recruit. MIddle-class white Oxbridge educated lawyer.

Nick Griffin the MI5 infiltrator.

Intriguing.

Reply 27

ak56

OMGWTFBBQ

I thought the BNP was already a leftist party?

Well, high controls on immigration and the jobs for your own citizens attitude is actually quite a leftist thing traditionally.

Reply 28

Broderss

3

StormFront is not synonymous with the BNP.

Reply 29

They lost a ******** of deposits in the last GE. but I dont think a new leader will change it tbh. Nick Griffin was probably the most competant leader of the BNP. A cambridge educated, articulate and somewhat moderate scumbag, he didn't get into any real trouble except from opening his mouth too much. In comparison to Mark Collett, who was supposed to be his successor, and if that happened, then the BNP would be finished undoubtedly. That man is a ******* idiot.

Stormfront is full of angry white basement dwellers who are against any form of racial intergration etc. Not really representative of the BNP, whose support has surged due to lack of jobs or housing and bieng fed up of con-lab governenments. I met a few people who voted bnp and they are not racist at all, tbh. they are just stupid and taken in my sensationalism.

anyway, i cant wait to see who the new bnp leader is in 2013

Reply 30

Broderss

3

Organ

Am I a bad person if I say I have no particular feelings towards the BNP?

No it means you're intelligent. There is no reason why a particular political party with views not generally accepted within society is wrong or should be hated. Morons go on about tolerance and accepting different views but when it comes to a neo-nazi organisation suddenly that group no longer has a right to hold those views and has no right to exist, although they have no issue with an extremist religious organisation :facepalm:

Reply 31

donuticus

I always like the idea that GRiffin is an MI5 plant. The more I see him the more I believe it. Not one person could manage to make themselves, their beliefs and their parties ideologies look so ridiculous every time they are given a national platform.

THinking about it he would have been an ideal recruit. MIddle-class white Oxbridge educated lawyer.

Nick Griffin the MI5 infiltrator.

Intriguing.

Tbh he moderated the party, which is why a lot of members aren't really as racist, as say, those from the NF or the european far right. Their policies upon creation were however, ridiculous.

Reply 32

Redreynard

oh i'm not saying that britain is comparable to rwanda, of course it is not. we are lucky to live in this country. and in our life-times i imagine life will be on the whole quite peachy. but this is the lie of the land:-

1950s britain, a land of peace.
2000s britain, a more heterogenous country, occasional killings in places like toxteth or st. paul's.
rwanda, an even more heterogenous country, genocide.

the pattern is simple. for instance japan is a very homogenous country. result: far less murder than britain. america is very heterogenous. result: murder is pretty commonplace.

I'm sorry, WHAT ????

different races coexisting =/= more crime. In fact the inequality gaps in japan is much much smaller in comparison to the UK and the US. And, as proven by basic economics, realtive poverty, deprovation and poor upbringing= crime. Not skin colour.

Reply 33

ak56

Dan1992

in the US for example, the constitution is in part there to protect all individuals from the tyranny of the majority that democracy can become, e.g. Hitler, if a political Party specifically goes against the constitution by wanting to harm people, e.g. an extreme religious organisation or a far-right political group, and has a bad track record etc and is deemed by judges far wiser than us in affairs to do with the law as unconstitutional, then there is space for them to be banned in a nation that remains liberal democracy. just because we don't have a codified constitution and only just got a supreme court doesn't mean that the rest of the world has followed the same political model...

What a load of ********, the US very rarely, if ever bans anything regardless of how distasteful the parties views are. Americans have a very libertarian outlook on freedom of speech and believe everyone has a right to broadcast their views no matter how distateful they are.

If anyone was actually threatening to immediately go and kill a particular group of people, that would be different and the police would deal with that in most countries, but extreme views in America are accepted as part of the democratic process.

Take the Westboro Baptist Church for example, most Americans don't worry about them and let them exist as part of democracy in the US, the government doesn't interviene in their protests and they are allowed to freely exist as long as they are not physically hurting anyone. In the UK, this group would have been shut down long ago, and the leaders probably in prison.

So, if you think that the US government shuts down political parties that the establishment disagrees with you couldn't be more wrong. In this US, you could be a member of the American Nazi Party or KKK and still wouldn't be bared from government jobs or law enforcement. Americans simply believe everyone has a right to believe whatever they want so long as they are not physically hurting anyone else.

Reply 34

ak56

Dan1992

the german supremen court can ban parties.

After WW2 Germany has become very nearly as politically correct as the UK. The German courts are preoccupied with Nazism, for obvious reasons, to the extent I bet extremist Islamic groups slip under the net and are ignorned.

Regardless, attempting to compare the BNP to a party that murdered 6 million Jews is just showing your ignorance. The BNP is more comparable to this lot; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany and they're not banned by the looks of it.

Reply 35

greatmonte

18

although I disagree with nick griffin and his views.....you have to give the man some credit for his leadership skills I mean he managed to organise a group of council estate and NF thugs into a political party.....lets hope no-one does that to the EDL :holmes:

Reply 36

ajtiesto

7

Hahah. racist britis, they'll never learn.

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