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Jalebis, ladoos, gulab jaman and a bunch of others that I don't know the names of lol. I'm getting hungry now

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Just curious about this video and the alleged truth about genocide of sikhs. Did this really happen or is it an exageration?

Hey. I'm Sikh and new to this forum! Please make me feel welcome.

Thanks.

I must say, Punjabi samosas are a bit of an insult to samosas!

You will take that back right now!

Have you ever tried a Punjabi samosa, to be able to come to that conclusion? Or are you just going off of what it looks like in the pic?




Same, I don't like using anglicised names.

It is properly referred to as the "Harmandir Sahib", which translates to "abode of God".

Harmandir Sahib (and every other Gurdwara in the world) has 4 entrances, one on each side, to signify its openness to all of humanity, regardless of caste, creed, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion or sexual orientation. It is an invitation for all mankind to enter and enjoy it's peace.

Of course, many times. It gave me stomach poisoning in Delhi and taste straight up horrible! Are there any dietry restrictions in Sikhism?

That's a MUCH better name than the boring 'Golden Temple' which is a bit rude, frankly.

What about the golden doors? Is there any story to it or am I just imagining things?

Of course, many times. It gave me stomach poisoning in Delhi and taste straight up horrible! Are there any dietry restrictions in Sikhism?

That's a MUCH better name than the boring 'Golden Temple' which is a bit rude, frankly.

What about the golden doors? Is there any story to it or am I just imagining things?

*joins* HHAAAAIIIIIII IM A SIKHH TOOO..I think.... *checks* yes I am!

and no there is not haha xD. Not atleast I know off, only thing about doors is the fact there are doors on all directions (north,east south west etc) to show all is welcome.

Sorry to hear about the stomach poisoning

Hmm perhaps it is just the Punjabi samosas on the Indian side of the border that taste horrible, I've never heard a bad word said against the ones we make in Pakistan Don't worry Indians, we'll teach you a thing or two about cooking if you'd like

And mate honestly, I have no idea about the golden doors lol, where are you getting your information from? Although granted I have never been to Harmandir Sahib (or even stepped foot in India), but I have also never heard about any golden doors

Lol maybe so! Let it be known, the stomach knows no nationality. I'll eat whatever tastes good. I probably do since most of the Indian restaurants are owned by Pakistanis here

I think I just may be making this up or I heard it somewhere, I really don't know. But one of the doors apparently belonged to a Hindu mandir that had the doors stolen from them by the Mughals in religious overtone. The hindus seeked the help of the Sikhs (omg I just realised, no pun intended sorry) to retrieve the doors. The Sikhs being who they are said yes and routed the Mughals to get the doors back. When they brought the doors back, the Brahmins of the mandir gave the doors to the Sikhs as they felt they deserved it more.

Honestly, no clue. I dont know where that story has come from. If anywhere.

Btw, am not a Sikh to the person who quoted me.

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Yaaayyy another one!

And I had no idea you were Sikh mate, I've seen a few of your posts in the religions section before and you don't sound religious. Although I am glad to have you aboard and it is nice knowing there are quite a few rational voices within the faith.

May I ask what keeps you loyal to the religion, like what makes you continue to call yourself a Sikh? Are you knowledgeable on the teachings?

haha, im all over the place, i grew up with atheists so i guess i love their views alot :P

my story is...uhh...complicated^^'

My dad is the black sheep of our family, hes very into Sikhism (he does not keep hair though but thats due to other issues) and as such i grew up influenced by this. He was usually away at work so he never really educated me in the teachings, my mother herself knew little, she told me the stories but I did alot of the research myself. I know enough about it and i can understand what my teachings it to the best of my ability. Judging from where I live I can honestly say I do know quite a bit, I know about the teachings, the indepth, the history and I researched it quite extensively too.

Now im a moody teenager :P I love my religion but at the same time I hate how many people are taking a stand to it. And of course with real life time being spent on school, studies and right now (god know why) gaming I have drifted a bit, i admit this.

What keeps me true to my religion is my love for science (sounds rather stupid i know), Sikhism is about learning and adapting, much like science. I've not found a single inaccuracy scientific wise in our scriptures (then again we're not heavily science based I guess) and that combined with the massively advanced view our Guru's exhibited in their time and era keeps me attached to my faith.

Why do you call your dad the "black sheep of the family", if he is into Sikhi, then surely that is a good thing, right?

Also, I agree with what you have to say about Sikhism and science. The Guru Granth Sahib is not a composition of prophecies or 'scientific miracles', essentially it teaches a methodology on how to face the challenges of life, I like how it doesn't contain any dogmas and doesn't try to dictate every aspect of your being, instead it treats you like an adult and gives you the tools you need to be able to make the decisions for yourself.

I love science as well, I could spend an entire afternoon reading a paper on the diversity of life brought about by evolution or the possibility of time travel by manipulating the laws of physics and find more pleasure in that than going to watch a movie with my friends lol. Sikhism is all about continuous learning, always seeking more knowledge and understanding of the Universe around you in conjunction with improving yourself as an individual and growing as a person each and every day.

I love science and I feel like science and Sikhi compliment each other, both bring joy to my life and fill distinct niches. Sikhism itself is a science of the mind and realization of the self.

Oh man, sorry to hear about that :/ But I am glad your dad is okay and also that you learned from his mistakes and seem to be a better Sikh than he was, I actually haven't had a whole lot of contact with Sikhs in real life to be honest, but from my limited interactions, I have found that the older generation got a lot of things mixed up with culture and doesn't really seem to know the true teachings of the religion. But I see a lot of the younger kids these days have way more Sikhi knowledge than their parents and grandparents. They don't get it mixed up with culture and are much better Sikhs than their predecessors. I think it is a really great thing



I have found that with each of the major world religions, there are mystical break-aways that are A LOT more tolerant and spiritual than the mainstream views.

Judaism has the Kabbalah, Hinduism has Bhakti traditions, Islam has the Sufis and a similar movement exists within Christianity as well.

To my knowledge, Sikhism is perhaps the only major religion in the world where the entire faith itself is mystical and spiritual, no need for break-aways, it is all about living in the present and experiencing God in this life without waiting until death for your reward.



Hmm tbh I have not experienced this. Like I am from a Muslim family and practiced Islam before I became Sikh and have been honest about it with everyone I have met at the Gurdwara and everyone was really nice to me and made me feel welcome, but obviously not everyone in a religion is the same so I'm sure it happens.

Lol what a geek, but don't worry, I am the nerd in my group of friends as well It is nothing to be ashamed of, nerds are the ones that end up making the most money and running the world anyways lol. CEO 10K/day lol.

The close-mindedness exists in every community, not just Sikhism. Like yeah I have seen Sikhs who don't know much about other faiths, but tbh they're all like that. The Muslims at the Mosque I go to, most of them don't know the first thing about Sikhism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and all they know about Christianity and Judaism comes from what they have been taught by Imams and Sheikhs, and a lot of it tends to be biased information.

But it is a really big shame, imo, that it is happening in the Sikh community because Sikhism encourages you to learn about other point of views and perspectives, but again, I think it is the older generation who are closed off by Punjabi culture. The younger Sikhs seem to be breaking out of the mold, are far better educated and knowledgeable on their own (and other) religions

I find this a nice change too...but I also believe our generation are rather extreme too haha. Some of the marches iv seen here are really embarrassing, they start off nice and next thing you know its massively aggravated slogans (not offense but just not calm like previously) xD

Yes I totally agree there, apart from several cults iv never actually seen this incorporated into Christianity and Islam mainly, though i cant say i know a massive amount about them

Most people are they greet you and are very friendly haha, especially if your new or visiting xD.


True story mate haha. I'm a nerd but i keep it to myself mainly xD.

I do agree with this, alot of my friends (who are muslim) were led to believe Sikhism was a sect of Hinduism, I showed them the reality and they were very shocked, I was curious so i asked where they heard this from, and they said it was in their religious class.

Quite frankly I would think this is a nice touch to have, many more religions should doctrine more people on other religion, it makes a more friendly community in our world and its actually quite fascinating if I do say so myself. I started reading the bible haha.

I agree with this heavily, despite the fact our religion is heavily against sexism many punjabi born men are sublimely sexist to girls, its really horrible so when i point it out im given a nice lecture on elders know best ^^

Nice to know you started reading the Bible, I have a copy of the Bible that I read from time to time, I have started reading my Qur'an again on a regular basis, I have found an online version of Bhagavad Gita that I read when I get the chance and of course, Guru Granth Sahib which I try to do daily, if not anything else, then at least the Japji Sahib Bani

Lol next time you see someone doing something anti-Sikhism, and you point it out, if they say "elders know best", be like, "NO, the GURUS know best!" and put them in their place xD

So do you read Guru Granth Sahib on a regular basis, like have you understood Japji Sahib?

I've not had time to start on the Quran, as everytime I do attempt to read it and talk to my friends, they tell me its a bad translation

oh I do here we used to have Gurmat classes I used to attend. id point out inaccuracies and as a result alot of the teachers had a uhm..cold nature to me XD

Well I have read parts of the Guru Granth Sahib, I can do the 5 bani we recite in the morning, reharass, kirtan sohilaa ardaas etc (forgive this etc god D: ), i have gone through the translations of them and found them very very very illuminating, my friend did loan me the full volumes of the GGS but I have to say I was very lazy and only got through the first one (and about 50% of it too lol). As for regularity I do path every morning with japji sahib then and in the evening, during the evening though I do Reharass,ardaas and Kirtan sohila all at once.

I do read Hukhamnama from Harmindar sahib daily (courtesy of Sikhnet) too