OI! A guy really called Elson Ong here? Could you please send me a private message, I'm your cousin but as I don't have your e-mail address and have gotten rid of facebook (yes, I'm still living), we lost touch.
Besides, can anyone tell me what the point of going t6o a British uni is if you've got a pretty good uni right in your own city? Because to me, spending that amount of money is pretty pointless.. as British unis are massively overrated, if your consideration is based on the amount of stuff you learn there. I mean, why don't you go USA? Much better unis and not that much more expensive for you, if you think about it.
Last edited by Vikitora; 10-04-2012 at 00:19.
Ok, I suspect both sides have valid points, but I believe the main sticking issue is how Vikitora presented it - more of a: "in your face" that a UK university education isn't as desirable.
I'm unsure if you're a troll - since looking at your other posts seem to give the impression that you:
a) Want more contact hours in a University
b) Like your time in Germany because it's inter-disciplinary
That's fine. Maybe for the UK universities you (Vikitora) were looking at - they have very few contact hours, and not as flexible for Geography degrees. I can't comment, I'm not a geographer myself.
But that's no call to tar ALL UK universities with the same brush regarding contact hours and inter-disciplinary work, and I think that's what irks most people who read your post. That's because this isn't a geography forum, and I think most of us here aren't geographers.
That being said - here are some of my comments on contact hours.
Do you honestly go to all your contact hours? No scratch that, do all the students go to them? I suspect not. But even if so, what you cover at University is way more in-depth to be covered in the contact hours given - you'll have to do a lot of self-study and individual learning. I suspect that's why contact hours for certain courses are low. Of course, for the science disciplines, there are more contact hours. You forgot to mention that when talking about contact hours - and kind of lumped them together with humanities.
And perhaps one general comment / observation.
I'm studying in a UK university now. My course has a lot of contact hours. But most of the students I see don't turn up to ALL of them. There's opportunities to ask for help during term-time. It's not taken. My course is flexible - in some sense if I want to to take a history or politics module, I can do so. If I want to take a physics or a computer science module, I can do so as well, so long it doesn't take up more than 25% of my course-load.
I will have to add that this is something a student would need to actively take. It's not something like the US liberal arts system where everyone knows that they can take any module they want, with the pre-requisites. But someone who does not suffer from the No U-turn syndrome could easily study other modules if they want.
Even if they want to do more, you can walk into any lectures in my University. Perhaps bar medical ones.
My course covers second year modules at other universities in first year, and some third year / master level modules at other university in second / third year.
So yes, I disagree with all your points. Some universities may fit what you are describing, but not ALL UK universities.
*And just to ask, your education in Germany, is this the same for ALL German universities? Or for just the one you are studying at? Because if it is just the one you are studying at, then you honestly..have no leg to stand on.
Last edited by Narev; 10-04-2012 at 23:59.
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(Original post by hubble)
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Last edited by jonobebe; 11-04-2012 at 08:40.
Well, there are different kinds of educational "events" you can go to. But they are not all compulsory. Most of the time you only need to sit the exam and pass. But in many cases you NEED to attend to scrape a pass. I think we've got a different concept here..
There are lectures, which are "lessons" following the (in my opinion stupid) method of frontal education. There is a professor standing in the middle of an auditorium, filled with (at some German unis, such as the LMU) up to 500 students, and talking about things, whilst YOUR job is to sit and listen and take notes.. they often conclude in exams.
The proseminars are mainly for first years because you learn about the methodology and such like of your course. They end with an essay and a presentation.
Then there are seminars, which serve the purpose to go "deeper" into a "special topic" in groups of 10-20 students. And here you actually learn something new. They conclude in you writing an essay and holding a presentation.
Additionally, there are "project seminars" in which you do research of your own into a topic you may choose out of a selection.
Sadly, I don't seem to be able to find an English course overview. Otherwise I'd copy you a link.
And as for the fact that your supervisions seem to be geared more towards making everyone understand than anything else: it probably is that way because each university student in the UK spends a lot of money on her/his education. If the course were so hard that the student would not cope anymore (as very often is the case here! In fact that even is the strategy of the unis here: they want to make sure that their students really want to do what they are doing and don't just study their subject because they follow a whim or because they want the academic prestige. Which is why they are "sieved out" by overly harsh exams, courses, projects in the first few semesters. So yes, many German students fail.), the student would have to stop studying and thus the uni would lose money.
I found it extremely weird that all international applicants at the uni of edinburgh received an offer - well all of them would have paid the largest sum for their education.... maybe that is not the explanation for that phenomena, correct me if I'm wrong. =)
And contact hours vary from "event" to "event".. each "event" leads to a certain number of "credit points" (either 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 or 9 for my course). Most of the time one "event" takes up 2-4 hours a week, and apart from some "events" which are compulsory, you may pick the others freely. The only criteria you need to fulfill is that you need to have filled 180 credit points at the end of your education, according to plan three years, but many students don't manage to meet this set time limit. A good friend of mine added another year because he was interested in too much to be able to cover everything within the time an average student is allocated.
Last edited by Vikitora; 11-04-2012 at 11:23.