Is Scottish independence a 'good or bad' thing?

I'm sorry but I really can't get past your ignorance here.
Scottish people do not hate the English. Of course there will always be a minority who do, just as some people are racists, or homophobes, or anti-semites. But to blatantly claim that Scotland as a nation is Anti-English, that is not only ridiculous but incredibly insulting.

The Yes Campaign is not trying to play off any anti-English sentiments, because there are none in wider Scottish society. In fact, the closeness between Scotland and England is one of the best and most effective arguments that is used against independence.

Two questions was never proposed by the SNP. An in/out referendum was. Consultations also showed that the majority of Scots wanted an In/Out Referndum.

Equally though, the UK has a population of 65 Million. it's slightly unfair if 5 million get to keep voting on what benefits them. This is the main reason I'm against the SNP. It's just promoting a selfish nature wrapped up in a warm socialist front. See where they get the name Tartan Tories from.

An In/Out referendum ahs been allowed. Vote on itm get it over an done with and live with the results.

They're trying to throw up division on a historical basis that ended 300 years ago. A Union that has benefited all Nations in it.

The claim that we are some how not represented in Westminster is farcical, as is the claim that somehow we're penalised for being Scottish. And although that may not be the official party line, I've met too many SNP supporters in my time that live up to that, and a mere flick through the comments section in the Scotsman or the Daily Record back that ascertation up.

Do you really think that we're any diiferent from A scouser? Or a Gordie? Or a Brummie? Do we have different aspirations from them?

You are making things up.
The SNP has been campaigning for independence long before 2014, in fact when the SNP created a minority government in 2007 they tried to pass a referendum bill.

And what you are saying really is insulting, you are not some oracle of Scottish national opinion, because you decide to claim that most of Scotland hates English people, does not make it true. You don't see me here claiming that most English people hate Scottish people.

I am absolutely astounded that you can sit back and smugly claim that the Scottish people are obsessed with their past and with a hatred of England, really, how dare you.
And furthermore, I can't believe that no one else has picked you up on this, you can't just generalise and insult an entire nation.

Sigh.

Furthermore, the Yes campaign is not trying to play off any Braveheart attitudes, you are the one playing off history.. a grand 300 year old union. We deal with the present situation as it is now.

Then why intentionally delay the referendum until the 600th anniversary of Bannockburn?

Gaaaaaargh, I said holding the referendum in 2014, not campaigning for independence then.

When did I claim to be an oracle for Scottish national opinion? You don't know me and more to the point you don't know the nonsense I have had to put up with up here because some people can't get past Longshanks' invasion 700 years ago-it's pathetic. I can quote you some of the jibes I've had thrown my way from Scots if you like, but no doubt you'll refuse to accept them. There is one great chip on the Scottish shoulder towards England (look no further than 'Flower of Scotland' as an example) and it stems from previous conflicts. Do you see me bearing a grudge towards today's Germans for their ancestors killing thousands in my homecity through bombing raids? No, and that would be a lot more understandable.

I have been insulted for years off the back of my nationality and been told to accept it as 'just banter'-for you to have the nerve to essentially call me a liar is astounding. I can't wait to leave.

I'm afraid you are simply wrong, the SNP continuously showed support for a two question referendum but backed down from it as a compromise during the Edinburgh Agreement.

And what do you suggest, that the rest of the UK gets to vote on a Scottish Independence referendum? That is frankly ridiculous.

And I find it funny that unionists now have the attitude of, you have your referendum so get on with it and shut up.
For how long were unionist parties opposed to the referendum? They claimed it would cost so much, it was unnecessary. Even when the largest party in the Scottish Parliament was a nationalist one, they still claimed that there should be no referendum! But then the conservative and unionist party agreed to hold a referendum on Proportional Representation, and issue that couldn't have been further from the public spotlight and one that flopped spectacularly. This hypocrisy over referendums is more than a little bit amusing.

Sigh.
Scotland does not hate England or the English. If you look anywhere you will find ignorant comments, which is why I infrequently dare to glance over the comments on the Daily Mail's website, you can find your share of anti-Scottish comments by Englishmen on there!
The difference is, I have the logical ability to differentiate between the attitudes of some and the attitudes of a wider society.

Furthermore, the Yes campaign is not trying to play off any Braveheart attitudes, you are the one playing off history.. a grand 300 year old union. We deal with the present situation as it is now.

And no, I don't think people are inherently different. But if that is to be used as logic against independence, then I expect you support an EU Super state? Or is the English Channel actually our defense against those "continentals" who may as well be a different species, they eat snails after all!

Then why intentionally delay the referendum until the 600th anniversary of Bannockburn?

Sigh.
Scotland does not hate England or the English. If you look anywhere you will find ignorant comments, which is why I infrequently dare to glance over the comments on the Daily Mail's website, you can find your share of anti-Scottish comments by Englishmen on there!
The difference is, I have the logical ability to differentiate between the attitudes of some and the attitudes of a wider society.

Furthermore, the Yes campaign is not trying to play off any Braveheart attitudes, you are the one playing off history.. a grand 300 year old union. We deal with the present situation as it is now.

And no, I don't think people are inherently different. But if that is to be used as logic against independence, then I expect you support an EU Super state? Or is the English Channel actually our defense against those "continentals" who may as well be a different species, they eat snails after all!

"There is one great chip on the Scottish shoulder" There, that is you being an oracle of the Scottish People.
I'm not calling you a liar, I have also had anti-Scottish attitudes from English people, even on here I've had countless people telling me I'm subsidised by the English and should be grateful for it. But do I claim that England hates Scotland? No, because I know that's not true.
I have relatives who live in England, and I hear similar stories from them about what some English people say to them, but not even they claim that's a mainstream view in England.

You are portraying Scots as an ignorant people with a "chip on their shoulder", do you know how insulting that is? That is exactly the attitude my relatives face in England from a small number of people, oh you hate us English don't you.. nope. So please, get over yourself. Really, you have no authority to claim that Scotland discriminates against the English just as I have no authority to claim that England discriminates against the Scottish, because neither is the truth!

Moreover, if what you are saying is true, wouldn't support for Independence be much higher than it is right now in the polls?

I'll agree with the Daily Mail comments, but as the Daily Mail doesn't have a high circulation up here, I'll focus on teh ones that do. The Scotsman and the Record.

The SNP have been playing offBarveheart. I still rememebr teh SNP canvassers hanging around outside the Cinema's in 95. And if you're not playing on history then tell your supporters who turned up for the March of Freedom in the Gardens that it isn't the 17th Century or earlier, I'm not too bothered about my historic right, I'm not really bothered about a Union be it of Parliaments or Crowns, I'm not after a declaration of support aiming for 1 million signatures that's as important as the Declaration of Arbroath, and I'd rather you didn't try and engineer a Referendum on the 700th Anniversary of some Medieval Battle where one French guy who lived in Scotland, fought anouther French guy who lived South of the Border.

I don't support an EU super State, nor do I support the English Channel. I support a referendum on Europe, just as I'm being given a referendum on whether I'd like to take a leap into the unknown by a political leader who has been caught out telling porkies quite a few times recently

The SNP have been playing offBarveheart. I still rememebr teh SNP canvassers hanging around outside the Cinema's in 95.

Oh my god. I have addressed this many times, this is simply untrue!
Seriously!

Oh my god. I have addressed this many times, this is simply untrue!
Seriously!

Being told that your country is subsidised by another (which is factually correct), is entirely different to being told that you should be ashamed of your nationality because your ancestors murdered innocent Scots in the 1300s (which is the more insulting, do you think?). It's not 'anti-Scottish' to say that Westminster provides the Scottish Government with tens of billions of pounds in funding, it's factually correct.

I'm aware it might be 'insulting' to say that Scots have a chip on their shoulder, but, and let me repeat it for the umpteenth time, that is the impression I have got from 4 years of living here. Still don't believe me? When I tell Scottish friends of mine that their dislike of England is irrational, they reply with 'No it isn't, you killed innocent Scots hundreds of years ago'-who is being the more insulting here?

Now I suppose you're still going to say I'm pretending to be an 'oracle' for the Scottish people, so an interesting piece from my (English but raised in Scotland since 5) gf who said she was taught the following in school:

'In both World Wars, the Scottish soldiers were sent into battle before English ones, in order to minimise English casualties.'

If Scots are taught nonsense (and the most insulting nonsense possible) like this throughout their education, it's no wonder the SNP thinks it has half a chance of winning this referendum.

The Scotsman and the Herald are both unionist papers, in fact pretty much all newspapers in Scotland are unionist with the exception of the Sun.
And If I'm not incorrect, the number of comments on the Daily Mail website exceeds the number of comments on the record or scotsman.

Once again, that Bannockburn rumour has no basis.
I'm actually surprised that people believe these things.

You don't seriously believ that do you. Are you telling me that it's only now that somebodys picked up on this fact. Why was it never picked up at the time. I'm sure if I was in the Black Watch in World War 1 or 2 I'd have thought I'd have noticed that the Southern part of my country that had a population 8 times bigger than me always seemed to be holding those regiments back?

It's the same myth the Ozzies have about Galipoli until you point out the casualty rates were higher for North of England Regiments.

I know see the damage of the SNP changes to history lessons in schools. They're trying to brain wash our youth

Being told that your country is subsidised by another (which is factually correct), is entirely different to being told that you should be ashamed of your nationality because your ancestors murdered innocent Scots in the 1300s (which is the more insulting, do you think?). It's not 'anti-Scottish' to say that Westminster provides the Scottish Government with tens of billions of pounds in funding, it's factually correct.

I'm aware it might be 'insulting' to say that Scots have a chip on their shoulder, but, and let me repeat it for the umpteenth time, that is the impression I have got from 4 years of living here. Still don't believe me? When I tell Scottish friends of mine that their dislike of England is irrational, they reply with 'No it isn't, you killed innocent Scots hundreds of years ago'-who is being the more insulting here?

Now I suppose you're still going to say I'm pretending to be an 'oracle' for the Scottish people, so an interesting piece from my (English but raised in Scotland since 5) gf who said she was taught the following in school:

'In both World Wars, the Scottish soldiers were sent into battle before English ones, in order to minimise English casualties.'

If Scots are taught nonsense (and the most insulting nonsense possible) like this throughout their education, it's no wonder the SNP thinks it has half a chance of winning this referendum.