The GCSE to AS German bridging summer class &#x27;13 *Last Edited 29th July*

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Original post by Gilo98

So because Großvater is masculine you add the dative masculine ending of ein, -em, to the possesive stem of her, ihr? If thats right then whats with bei?

You were nearly right!

Besuchen is a fairly normal verb, and it takes the accusative. If I want to say I am visiting my grandfather, it’s just like saying Ich trinke eine Tasse Tee, with accusative endings.

Example sentences from my dictionary: In den Ferien besuchte er seine Großmutter; einen Freund oder einen Verwandten besuchen; einen Kranken im Krankenhaus besuchen.

So you actually add the accusative masculine ending –en to ihr, because Großvater is masculine, and you use ihr (because he’s her grandfather), as you thought.

However, if I want to say I’m making a visit to my grandfather’s house then I say ich mache einen Besuch bei meinem Großvater. The visit is the direct object or the thing being done, so that has an article in the accusative.

The complex issue here is bei. Bei is a preposition that always takes the dative (if a declinable word follows it). It means a few things, but the sense here is at the house of. For example, if I wanted to say I’m staying at home, I might say ich bleibe bei mir.

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Good thing I'm taking GCSE then ey ><

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Gilo98

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Original post by Octopus_Garden

You were nearly right!

Besuchen is a fairly normal verb, and it takes the accusative. If I want to say I am visiting my grandfather, it’s just like saying Ich trinke eine Tasse Tee, with accusative endings.

Example sentences from my dictionary: In den Ferien besuchte er seine Großmutter; einen Freund oder einen Verwandten besuchen; einen Kranken im Krankenhaus besuchen.

So you actually add the accusative masculine ending –en to ihr, because Großvater is masculine, and you use ihr (because he’s her grandfather), as you thought.

However, if I want to say I’m making a visit to my grandfather’s house then I say ich mache einen Besuch bei meinem Großvater. The visit is the direct object or the thing being done, so that has an article in the accusative.

The complex issue here is bei. Bei is a preposition that always takes the dative (if a declinable word follows it). It means a few things, but the sense here is at the house of. For example, if I wanted to say I’m staying at home, I might say ich bleibe bei mir.

Ahh ok but are you just using bei to screw with us or is it completely necessary? :tongue:

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Original post by Gilo98

Ahh ok but are you just using bei to screw with us or is it completely necessary? :tongue:

Well, this particular use just came up in conversation!

It's completely necessary in that sentence (I'm making a visit to my grandfather=ich mache einen Besuch bei meinem Grossvater), but you could just carry on saying ich besuche meine Tante/meinen Opa/meinen Grossvater for the next few months. They're equally valid.

Of course, when it comes to your GCSE controlled assessments, you need to insert as many complicated structures as possible, just to demonstrate you know them. As it happens, I do remember jamming in bei for mine!

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Gilo98

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Original post by Octopus_Garden

Well, this particular use just came up in conversation!

It's completely in that sentence (I'm making a visit to my grandfather=ich mache einen Besuch bei meinem Grossvater), but you could just carry on saying ich besuche meine Tante/meinen Opa/meinen Grossvater for the next few months. They're equally valid.

Of course, when it comes to your GCSE controlled assessments, you need to insert as many complicated structures as possible, just to demonstrate you know them. As it happens, I do remember jamming in bei for mine!

Okedokey havnt got any reps left but will do at some time tomorrow :biggrin:

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Thatitootoo no understand :frown:

but

1) Sonic der irre Igel sammelt die Ringen (Ring, m)
2) Der Dichter nimmt Drogen. (Dichter, m)
3) Die Katze öffnet das Fenster (Fenster, n)
4) Der Lehrer halt das Buch, n)
5) Ich brauche den Kuli (Kuli ,m)
6) Die Maus reitet den Hund (Hund, m)
7) Das Kaninchen isst sein Essen. (Kaninchen, n)
8) Er liebt die Kellnerin. (Kellnerin, f)

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1) He is reading the newspaper.
Er liest die Zeitung.
2) The boy sees her.
Der Junge sieht das Maedchen :tongue:

(sie)
3) I’m buying this book.
Ich kaufe dieses Buch.
4) Mr Schmidt, can you help me please?
Herr Schmidt, können Sie mir helfen, bitte?
5) John and Janet, my sister hates you.
John und Janet, meine Schwester hast ihr. / meine Schwester mag ihr nicht.
6) She wears a beautiful pearl necklace.
Sie trägt eine schöne Perlenkette.
7) Etta, do you have to buy another umbrella?
Etta, musst du noch einen (anderen) Regenschirm kaufen?
8) Can you see him?
Kannst du ihn sehen?
9) I find the library card./ I have found the library card.
Ich finde den Leserausweis. / Ich habe den Leserausweis gefunden.
10) The cat likes me.
Die Katze mag mich.

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1) Sonic der irre Igel sammelt einen Ring (Ring, m)
2) Ein Dichter nimmt Drogen. (Dichter, m) (sounds like a fact!)
3) Die Katze öffnet ein kleines.(Fenster, n) (I can even do neuter/feminine adjectives :wink:

4) Der Lehrer hält ein Buch. (Buch, n)
5) Ich brauche einen Kuli. (Kuli ,m)
6) Die Maus reitet einen Hund.(Hund, m)
7) Ein Kaninchen isst sein Essen. (Kaninchen, n)
8) Er liebt eine huebsche Kelnerin. (Kellnerin, f)

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Original post by Octopus_Garden

A brief reminder of perfect tense formation.

(die Sportlerin ist schnell gelaufen).

ist oder hat? Wenn ich das gut verstehen habe! :wink:

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Original post by thatitootoo

1) Sonic der irre Igel sammelt einen Ring (Ring, m)

Sonic der irre Igel sammelt gern schoene Ringe!
oder
Sonic der irre Igel bekommt einen Ring.
:wink:

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