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Debate over Chechnya

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having just read through this thread, everyone here appears to be quote radical and disturbed. I think its a good indication of why the outside world doesn't really want to be heavily involved with chechnya, despite their misgivings toward russia
Reply 21
Assalam Aleykum ya rahmatullah ya barakyat
Our Holy Prophet Muhammad (Salla Allah aleyhi ya Sallam) said 'When trust is no more await the Day of Judgment. Trust is no more when unworthy men pursue the Cause'.
Brothers, can we trust the words of munafiq Akhmed Zakaev who preaches readiness for Jihad at the same time fraternizing with the Englishmen who kill the faithful in Waziristan and oppress them in London. Yes, our brother Akhmet Chataev has been released from prison. But can we give the credit for it to the servant of the Englishmen and the Jews Zakaev? It may well be just another game played by the English giaours who want to decide how the faithful Muslims should live. In fact there's not much credit in subduing the Georgian giaours.
Allah is strict in punishment. Fear it because it will come upon not only those of you who did injustice. Inshallah.
Reply 22
Assalam Aleykum, brother!

You are absolutely right! Munafiq Zakaev deserves to be blamed. There is no his merit in the release of our brother Akhmed Chataev. Chataev was released by the Brits. Zakaev is just a stalking-horse, a 'talking head'. The English killed his friend, Jewish bastard Berezovsky. Deceitful jackal Zakaev is the next. His turn will come soon.

Insh'allah! Victory or Jannah!
Reply 23
Original post by Makhmud
Assalam Aleykum ya rahmatullah ya barakyat
Our Holy Prophet Muhammad (Salla Allah aleyhi ya Sallam) said 'When trust is no more await the Day of Judgment. Trust is no more when unworthy men pursue the Cause'.
Brothers, can we trust the words of munafiq Akhmed Zakaev who preaches readiness for Jihad at the same time fraternizing with the Englishmen who kill the faithful in Waziristan and oppress them in London. Yes, our brother Akhmet Chataev has been released from prison. But can we give the credit for it to the servant of the Englishmen and the Jews Zakaev? It may well be just another game played by the English giaours who want to decide how the faithful Muslims should live. In fact there's not much credit in subduing the Georgian giaours.
Allah is strict in punishment. Fear it because it will come upon not only those of you who did injustice. Inshallah.


Well-well... another crazy frog's here. Welcome to our little team. Now please expand on your claim that Zakaev is a servant of the Englishmen and Jews. Is this the thing you heard from that psychopath Umarov? Go on believing him and you'll become a complete idiot. Don't you want to think with your own head? Akhmed is working for the sake of the Chechens. He does everything possible to stop everyone from thinking we're terrorists. So just quit writing bulls**t here...
Reply 24
Original post by Aslanbeck
In the thread 'Which countries have the highest chance of breaking up?' I had a rather heated debate with one o supporters of a terrorist, a psychopath, a traitor of the Chechen people and just an ordinary pervert Dokku Umarov who is so impudent that he dares to call himself Amir of the Caucasus and strives to create a separate state out of the Northern Caucasus that would live by the law of Sharia. Well, the section moderator Aj12 suggested that we create a new thread to discuss Chechen politics in such detail. I agree, so I start this one. So, my opponent MansurtheHillman claimed that Dokku Umarov is a true leader who leads his nation to prosperity. He believes holy jihad and creating a Caliphate is the one and only way Chechnya should follow. He doesn't think western countries' support is necessary, he only lays his hopes with terrorists from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Well Mansur, I want to oppose you! Just look at yourselves the so-called 'freedom fighters', look how you live if that can be called life. You there are hiding in the mountains, all covered in filth without any normal conditions of living, you eat instant noodles and foiled tinned meat and at the same time you're talking of global jihad. While your old men dream of decent old age, your women dream of decent life, and your children need proper education. Can Umarov give you anything of it? Never! Take off your rose-colored glasses. Akhmet Zakaev is a true defender of the Chechen people and its leader. He is the only one of us who has connections with European politicians of the highest standing, he is on good terms with the British Prime Minister, he truly cares about his people. We have to thank him that last year he through his connections with the British embassy to Georgia managed to get our brother Akhmet Chataev released from prison and later on employees of the embassy got him out of the country. Zakaev constantly and indefatigably tries to improve the image of the Chechen people in Europe and the USA, especially after the Boston bombings when people there began to see a terrorist in everyone of us. Who is to blame in it? I tell you who is. It's Umarov and his stupid supporters like yourself!

without fighters Chechnya will never be free.you will always be a region of Russia.If you accept that then he's wrong but if you want independence he's right
Reply 25
Are you chechen!?
Reply 26
It would be foolish to think that Chechnya can somehow become an independent state, especially given the fact that its current leadership supports Putin, who has no intention to grant Chechnya independence. Doku Umarov and all his separatists have no real power in the region.

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