IQ or Top grades?

Very true. I have an IQ of 142, good memory, got good grades.
My sis has an IQ of 100. Terrible memory, grades...not so good lol.

Is that relative to you because 100 is supposedly the average IQ?

Willingness to work hard at stuff is a significant part of intelligence.

None. You needn't any to be a success.

Evidence

Joey Essex
Peter Andre
Paris Hilton
Kim Kardashian

Its more about who you know and how far you're willing to go.

You must be joking? Being an idiot isn't my definition of success, popularity != wealth/power/status

Both are rubbish indicators one quantifies something fluid the other is just a memory game with little room for creativity.

In today's capitalist world people equate success with money and the 4 people mentioned have it. In the eyes of many these would be seen as successful people.

You'll find a lot of drop-outs got extremely high grades - they usually drop out of very academic places (like Harvard, Stanford etc. not exactly London Met.), so it's safe to say they would have had very good grades - e.g. Zuckerberg, Bill Gates (who famously enrolled at Math 55, supposedly the hardest undergraduate maths course in the world)

Whether or not you have a Trillion A*s is pointless if you want to find the cure to Cancer or prove the Riemann Hypothesis.

On the other hand profound intelligence and a bit of inspiration would allow you to be capable of solving these problems and more during your lifetime quite easily.

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Hasn't worked for anyone else yet... might want to rephrase that.

I think you missed the "profound" part of intelligence. The combination itself is incredibly hard to find.

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'quite easily' you make the very unintelligent assumption that there is an answer to these problems (maybe we can't completely cure all cancers with the resources we have?). Quite easily implys some sort of hindsight... even the greatest minds in hundreds of years have failed to answer these questions.

I think yes, they are correlated, but not very tightly. There's people like Mycroft Holmes---lazy, intransigent, but with a brain the size of Israel---and then there's people like the stereotypical East Asian---work hard, work hard, work hard, but maybe of average intelligence at best.

I've got personal experience on this. I've done well on so-called "intelligence" tests, but have not had success in the Canadian educational system because it tests a wide range of mandatory subjects. Social sciences are the most boring thing ever (especially sociology), so I wouldn't even try, and would fail miserably as a result.

But those are outliers. Still, I think the best predictor of success as a whole is the American SAT test. It's a "grade", but it's also so tightly correlated to the IQ test that you may as well CALL IT an IQ test. On the other hand, the ACT test is a crock of sh!t, and so is any test that requires you to write instead of bubble in an answer.

For me success has be due to hard work and an interest in what I am doing. At A level 30 years ago when there was no such thing as retakes i got BC and an O level pass. I got into uni by the skin of my teeth but won the dissertation prize. Doing Masters level study I got a merit and the prize of the school of Education.

I am now doing a PhD as a distance learner. I love my chosen career (Speech and Language Therapist) and I am really enjoying working all day and studying every evening. The question is surely not about my outcome in an IQ test - it is the understanding i have of my subject.

For those of you who think that leaving university means that your studies are over - hahaha

I think yes, they are correlated, but not very tightly. There's people like Mycroft Holmes---lazy, intransigent, but with a brain the size of Israel---and then there's people like the stereotypical East Asian---work hard, work hard, work hard, but maybe of average intelligence at best.

I've got personal experience on this. I've done well on so-called "intelligence" tests, but have not had success in the Canadian educational system because it tests a wide range of mandatory subjects. Social sciences are the most boring thing ever (especially sociology), so I wouldn't even try, and would fail miserably as a result.

But those are outliers. Still, I think the best predictor of success as a whole is the American SAT test. It's a "grade", but it's also so tightly correlated to the IQ test that you may as well CALL IT an IQ test.

On the other hand, the ACT test is a crock of sh!t, and so is any test that requires you to write instead of bubble in an answer.

What is the point of this post except to say that you did bad in A levels and then went on to do well at uni?

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