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Arsey's S2 S14 Model Answers (IAL and (R) added)

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Original post by Arsey
tomorrow probs


Any idea how long D2 will be?

Cheers :smile:
Reply 21
Original post by EL77
Isn't the continuity correction p(X<35.5)? Not 34.5. Also, if p has to be really small for to approximate B to Po, that's why it made sense to use a normal approximation no?


I am not sure which one you mean but no,


your test is P(x>=135) so you look at what value makes sense for > and then the cc correction is inbetween

P(x >134) cc P(x > 134.5)

for it to be > 135.5 P(x > 136) which doesn't make sense.


You have made your own point

0.975 is not suitable for Poisson or Normal, for normal p needs to be close to 0.5, for Poisson p needs to be small. That is why you need to flip the problem and think about misses.
Reply 22
Original post by Ivel
For question 4b I forgot to minus 0.9227 from 1 to get 0.0773. So I got x = 28. How many method marks would I get?


Ooh I did that! Wondered how I got an answer so different from everyone else's. As to how many marks it would get I have absolutely no idea.
Are you doing model answers for d2?
Reply 24
Original post by David787
Hi arsey. How likely do you reckon it is that a one tail test will be accepted for 5d because the question was really vague? If it's not accepted how many marks do you reckon I'll lose for it? Thanks


the fact it tells you in the previous part it is a two tail should tell you the answer to your question.

I don't know but I seriously doubt it.

that said you will still get a lot of the marks as it is pretty much the same up to the conclusion of whether or not to reject null.
Reply 25
Original post by Mathematicsc1234
Are you doing model answers for d2?


yep, only just got the paper. My muppets used all the spare answer booklets though :angry:
Reply 26
Original post by Arsey
tomorrow probs


For question 2d, for the 'at least 7', so I used t>6 instead and got a different answer. Am I correct in assuming that?
Reply 27
Original post by Arsey
I am not sure which one you mean but no,


your test is P(x>=135) so you look at what value makes sense for > and then the cc correction is inbetween

P(x >134) cc P(x > 134.5)

for it to be > 135.5 P(x > 136) which doesn't make sense.


You have made your own point

0.975 is not suitable for Poisson or Normal, for normal p needs to be close to 0.5, for Poisson p needs to be small. That is why you need to flip the problem and think about misses.


Why can't it be P(X less than (or equal to) 135) which then using cc makes P(X less than 35.5)?
Reply 28
Hello Arsey, Im new to TSR but how many marks would I lose if I used the Normal Approximation correctly. In one of the previous papers, 2/5 marks were lost. Do you agree as it would be harsh to lose all 5. But Ive seen in previous questions edexcel have used normal when it was no where near close to 5
Thanks
Jay
Thanks for the solutions Arsey! For 5b) is saying that it will take too long to test all the seeds a valid answer?
And for 6d) do you have to say slight positive skewness? I just said positively skewed. Cheers.
Reply 30
OH MY GOD LOL, after destroying s3 and s4 I was positive that I would get 100% in this exam, didn't even care much, slept during the exam... Well... I've got about 55-57 raw marks I'm laughing so much. Good thing I only needed 48 ums in this
Original post by MR-M..
For question 2d, for the 'at least 7', so I used t>6 instead and got a different answer. Am I correct in assuming that?


That wouldn't make sense, it's not a discrete distribution, it's continuous.

Original post by Arsey
the fact it tells you in the previous part it is a two tail should tell you the answer to your question.

I don't know but I seriously doubt it.

that said you will still get a lot of the marks as it is pretty much the same up to the conclusion of whether or not to reject null.


Hi Arsey,

How many marks do you think you'd get out of the 5 for the sneaky 4c question for using a normal approximation? 2? Thought I did everything else well thankfully, may set me up for an A* in Further with S2/S3/S4 :smile:
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Reply 32
mr. bear, for 4c) how many marks would we lose for doing normal approximation instead of poisson? I did it identically to you
Are you going to do D2? If so, when will it be uploaded?

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Original post by Arsey
I can see this one causing a few arguments!

I thought it was quite tricky (for S2)

I have tried to put in some alternative solutions and if I think they will be accepted; however, I really don't know, it will depend on what is accepted on the MS. I would be surprised if they allow the normal approx as it really isn't suitable.

Past Boundaries

June 10 would be my guess



Module 100' 90' 80' 70' 60' 50' 40'
S2 Jun-13 74 69 64 56 48 40 33
S2 Jan-13 75 70 65 59 53 47 42
S2 Jun-12 74 69 64 56 49 42 35
S2 Jan-12 74 70 66 60 54 48 43
S2 Jun-11 75 67 59 50 41 33 25
S2 Jan-11 75 72 69 62 55 48 42
S2 Jun-10 74 68 62 54 46 38 31
S2 Jan-10 75 70 65 57 50 43 36
S2 Jun-09 75 69 62 54 46 38 30
S2 Jan-09 75 70 65 57 49 41 33
S2 Jun-08 75 70 65 58 51 44 37
S2 Jan-08 75 69 62 54 46 39 32
S2 Jun-07 75 69 63 55 48 41 34
S2 Jan-07 75 71 66 58 50 42 34
S2 Jun-06 75 71 66 58 50 43 36
S2 Jan-06 73 66 59 52 45 39 33
S2 Jun-05 75 68 61 54 48 42 36
S2 Jan-05 70 63 56 49 43 37 31
S2 Jun-04 75 70 64 57 50 44 38
S2 Jan-04 73 67 61 55 49 43 38
S2 Jun-03 71 64 57 50 44 38 32
S2 Jan-03 70 64 58 52 47 42 37
S2 Jun-02 72 65 58 51 44 37 30
S2 Jan-02 69 63 57 51 45 40 35
S2 Jun-01 75 68 60 52 45 38 31





Hey Arsey,
For the last question I got my median wrong as I got 3 (Equated to wrong equation to 0.5) and as a result I got a negative skew instead of a positive, out of the 5 marks possible marks available, how many marks do you think i'll lose in total (Need An A*), would I get error carried forward marks?
Original post by Azgar
I thought I did well....but now, I think I'd be lucky to get a C :cry2:

I feel to lonely right now :frown:



Original post by seohyun
Error here, error there, and I thought it went well... :frown:

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:/ I thought I done alright too. . To be honest though this paper was quite difficult :/
Original post by Arsey
I can see this one causing a few arguments!

I thought it was quite tricky (for S2)

I have tried to put in some alternative solutions and if I think they will be accepted; however, I really don't know, it will depend on what is accepted on the MS. I would be surprised if they allow the normal approx as it really isn't suitable.

Past Boundaries

June 10 would be my guess


Module 100' 90' 80' 70' 60' 50' 40'
S2 Jun-13 74 69 64 56 48 40 33
S2 Jan-13 75 70 65 59 53 47 42
S2 Jun-12 74 69 64 56 49 42 35
S2 Jan-12 74 70 66 60 54 48 43
S2 Jun-11 75 67 59 50 41 33 25
S2 Jan-11 75 72 69 62 55 48 42
S2 Jun-10 74 68 62 54 46 38 31
S2 Jan-10 75 70 65 57 50 43 36
S2 Jun-09 75 69 62 54 46 38 30
S2 Jan-09 75 70 65 57 49 41 33
S2 Jun-08 75 70 65 58 51 44 37
S2 Jan-08 75 69 62 54 46 39 32
S2 Jun-07 75 69 63 55 48 41 34
S2 Jan-07 75 71 66 58 50 42 34
S2 Jun-06 75 71 66 58 50 43 36
S2 Jan-06 73 66 59 52 45 39 33
S2 Jun-05 75 68 61 54 48 42 36
S2 Jan-05 70 63 56 49 43 37 31
S2 Jun-04 75 70 64 57 50 44 38
S2 Jan-04 73 67 61 55 49 43 38
S2 Jun-03 71 64 57 50 44 38 32
S2 Jan-03 70 64 58 52 47 42 37
S2 Jun-02 72 65 58 51 44 37 30
S2 Jan-02 69 63 57 51 45 40 35
S2 Jun-01 75 68 60 52 45 38 31





For the last question, could you say symmetrical, ie no skew, as median is very similar to mean, almost exact (0.03 difference)?
If I used P(X<=4) for the Poisson approximation for the shots, how many marks would I lose? Also if I put 'it would be a waste of resources and it's time consuming' would I get the mark? And finally, what would 71/72 equate to?
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This paper was such a wreck.... I was relying on it to upper my grade aswell..
Woops, reckon I got like 68 as I completely misread part two of the shots Q. Ughhjhu nmmdkdkfo no

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