Are Medicine, Dentistry and Vet Med the only courses that matter?

Original post by Madeline_H95

What about those people who are fluent without having a degree in the language? I think this is similar to saying animators at Disney Pixar must have a degree in animation. It would be useful but some people do self-teach the software?

I don't think that you could get far in a career as an interpreter without formal credentials. I'm not an expert on this, but I'm not sure that being native in the languages would suffice. You would likely be out-competed by people who did have relevant degrees, even if they weren't a formal requirement.

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Miss Maddie

Original post by TurboCretin

I don't think that you could get far in a career as an interpreter without formal credentials. I'm not an expert on this, but I'm not sure that being native in the languages would suffice. You would likely be out-competed by people who did have relevant degrees, even if they weren't a formal requirement.

I would be inclined to agree with you there but are we misinterpreting the question? I interpret the OP's question to mean STEM degrees present areas where only STEM graduates can go. STEM graduates can do everything but non-STEM degree graduates can't. Someone without a Medicine degree couldn't be a doctor but someone with a Medicine degree could be a lawayer, hence the OP's statement, law, as a non-STEM degree, doesn't matter.

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shahbaz

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Original post by HandmadeTurnip

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Explain?

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HandmadeTurnip

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Original post by shahbaz

Explain?

no

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German123

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Original post by Marky Mark

HELP.

You are worth a lot more than the grades you got on a piece of paper so please dont let those grades decide your fate. Also there are other options for example Btecs so its not completely the end of the world if you dont get the grades. You did the best that you could and if you have not i guess you have learnt your lesson that its though out there so be prepared...Remember life does not go in a straight line so dont stress of over exam results...as it is not all about going to Cambridge or oxford-you dont have to go there to make something good out of your life so do what suits you.

Always Remember "Winners are to busy to be sad, to positive to be doubtful, to optimistic to be fearful, and too determined to be defeated."

Edit: It is not all about a piece of paper with your name on it

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shahbaz

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Original post by HandmadeTurnip

no

You need to to turnup... Stop wasting my time.

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I think most degrees matter but not stuff in trivial aspects such as Fashion or dance.. what a waste of time :P

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Original post by Madeline_H95

I would be inclined to agree with you there but are we misinterpreting the question? I interpret the OP's question to mean STEM degrees present areas where only STEM graduates can go. STEM graduates can do everything but non-STEM degree graduates can't. Someone without a Medicine degree couldn't be a doctor but someone with a Medicine degree could be a lawayer, hence the OP's statement, law, as a non-STEM degree, doesn't matter.

I interpret the question the same way. If a language/translation degree is necessary to enter that field, then doesn't that create a niche that is beyond the reaches of STEM grads? It is an example of an area in which a STEM degree is insufficient to get you the job.

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You would just learn french or some **** on the side, not that difficult and quite frankly a degree in Languages is pointless. It just means that you are incapable of learning it yourself.

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Miss Maddie

Original post by TurboCretin

I interpret the question the same way. If a language/translation degree is necessary to enter that field, then doesn't that create a niche that is beyond the reaches of STEM grads? It is an example of an area in which a STEM degree is insufficient to get you the job.

If that was the case yes but is a language or translation degree necessary to enter that field or is it only advantegous? If there's a half-French, half-English woman with a Biology degree who speaks both French and English fluently, I don't think she would be discounted in an application process for an interpreter job.

Original post by Charlizarddd

You would just learn french or some **** on the side, not that difficult and quite frankly a degree in Languages is pointless. It just means that you are incapable of learning it yourself.

Blunt but holds true :smile:

You're going to start a big argument the moment a language students sees this *as I run to get the popcorn*

(edited 9 years ago)

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That's exactly what I'm saying, there are a lot of degrees that are fabricated to make people feel that they are worth a degree that will stand alongside subjects such as BioSciences, Medicine, Law etc. When really translation degrees are only advantageous and in reality are not equal to hardcore subjects that require a lot of knowledge, skill and work. It sounds against equality or whatever but I'm afraid opinions aren't wrong and I bet there are loads of people who think that they should not be counted as equally as Degrees such as STEM subjects (and others).
I hope this made sense, I think I might be a little too tired to rant.

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JC.

Original post by Marky Mark

homeless are you? :lol:

Mortgage free @ 28 actually... :wink:

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Original post by Madeline_H95

If that was the case yes but is a language or translation degree necessary to enter that field or is it only advantegous? If there's a half-French, half-English woman with a Biology degree who speaks both French and English fluently, I don't think she would be discounted in an application process for an interpreter job.

Like I say, I don't know the field. That said, according to the National Careers Service a languages degree and postgrad in interpreting would usually be required.

Perhaps there's a qualitative difference here between arts and sciences fields. In arts, it is possible to acquire the necessary skills yourself and much of the time it may be possible in theory to get an arts-related job without the formal qualifications. However, if you wanted to make a career out of it, or to progress to any meaningful level in it, I would have thought you would need the qualifications.

To take your example, she may do well if the job is related in some way to her degree. Outside that, although she may not be discounted out of hand, that doesn't mean she'd get the job.

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Oh really? So tell me that when a French Language degree and a Biological Sciences Degree is held next to each other, which one are you going to think is more intelligent? Because we all know it is not the Language Student. Job Worth means nothing because the majority of the time it depends upon the person themselves, I got a job at a Pharmaceutical company as a Junior researcher without a degree and I bet your ass there was a lot of people with degrees who applied. So your argument is invalid. Goodnight.

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Scott.M

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Nah dentistry is the only one /bias.

In all seriousness though, the UK is kinda ****ed atm due to the recession where yeah if you want a great career out of academics, you are very limited (I would add to your list an oxbridge degree (as long as it is in a decent subject), and an LSE degree).

Things will pick up again once the recession ends hopefully, and then other degrees will start to get the jobs they deserve once more.

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Miss Maddie

Original post by TurboCretin

Like I say, I don't know the field. That said, according to the National Careers Service a languages degree and postgrad in interpreting would usually be required.

Perhaps there's a qualitative difference here between arts and sciences fields. In arts, it is possible to acquire the necessary skills yourself and much of the time it may be possible in theory to get an arts-related job without the formal qualifications. However, if you wanted to make a career out of it, or to progress to any meaningful level in it, I would have thought you would need the qualifications.

To take your example, she may do well if the job is related in some way to her degree. Outside that, although she may not be discounted out of hand, that doesn't mean she'd get the job.

Excellent post to which I couldn't have said it better. STEM is very a much a sit down and learn thing where, without training or teaching, you don't know and will be incapable of doing a certain job but the arts is more learning by discovering and arts degrees are only advantageous but in the real world where competition is high they become compulsory as the advantage they provide is massive. The qualifications also act as a way of demonstrating basic competance so they're usually required. :smile:

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