9 year old accidentally shot her instructor dead. Guess which country.

Says who? You? Because handguns were legal before '96 and the homicide rate was very low, far lower than it was after they were removed. I'm not sure if you can read a graph, but the argument, if anything, is starkly against you

Your argument in a nutshell: "Guns are scary and big and loud and trigger my anxiety attacks so I don't think anyone else should have them"

Says who? You? Because handguns were legal before '96 and the homicide rate was very low, far lower than it was after they were removed. I'm not sure if you can read a graph, but the figures, if anything, are starkly against you

Your argument in a nutshell: "Guns are scary and big and loud and trigger my anxiety attacks so I don't think anyone else should have them"

First first first...i didnt know 96 and 2014 is 30 years apart

2nd, your graph says homicide rate is on a down trend. Your argument is against you. In fact, all statistics said that crime in UK is on a down trend. and UK has the lowest gun homicide in the world.

Sigh.....It is called recreational target shooting for entertainment.

Where did anyone say '96 and '14 are 30 years apart? Have you not been taking your meds again?

Homicides were on a direct upward trend, and a very significant one, directly after the banning of guns. Explain that for us? Why are the only years since 1980 which saw massive spikes in murder, the ones directly and immediately after the year where handguns were banned?

The UK has a low homicide rate and always has done. Most western European nations have similar or even lower homicide rates than the UK, namely Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, Spain, Austria, and Switzerland, and all of them have much higher gun ownership than the UK by factors of 5, 6 and up to 8 times. Explain that one too for us?

Where did anyone say '96 and '14 are 30 years apart? Have you not been taking your meds again?

Homicides were on a direct upward trend, and a very significant one, directly after the banning of guns. Explain that for us? Why are the only years since 1980 which saw massive spikes in murder, the ones directly and immediately after the year where handguns were banned?

The UK has a low homicide rate and always has done. Most western European nations have similar or even lower homicide rates than the UK, namely Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, Spain, Austria, and Switzerland, and all of them have much higher gun ownership than the UK by factors of 5, 6 and up to 8 times. Explain that one too for us?

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Of the past 30 years (the graph looks at a period of around 30 years), the years with the highest murder rates all happened directly after the gun ban.

Surely this isn't a difficult concept for you to understand? Can you not read a graph?

Because policies dont become effective immediately? Because there are many reasons that contribute to homicide? recession? If hand guns were not banned, that massive spike could have spiked harder.

You just said UK has low homicide rate and always has done, and then you went on and said some western nations have lower homicide rate. Because they have always had lower homicide rates?

Something tells me that you're American

By whose definition has the policy been "effective"? Lets summarise here, nice and simple:

They banned guns in the UK hoping less people would die. Immediately after guns were banned, hundreds and hundreds of more people died. Eventually, murder rates fell to the same level they were back when guns were legal.

I don't know the exact mark of a good policy, but by all standards, this was an utterly **** one.

When you see that wikipedia puts up the fact that UK has lowest gun homicide around the world.

Source of data plox. i've been asking a few post back.

Care to contribute anything of use

Ah, the infamous American rudeness

But no, not really. I just wanted to see if it was a really a British person who held such ridiculous views regarding gun laws.
However, as I have nothing left to say I shall now be on my way xD