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Original post by S27
I want to be a teacher one day, maybe a university lecturer. Did you or any of your colleges do a PGCE (initial teacher training for high-schools colleges etc) and did that help them?


Not that I know of. Nowadays most new lecturers do some kind of Postgraduate Certificate in teaching, but it's nothing like a PGCE and not worth the paper it's printed on TBH.
Original post by chazwomaq
6 years.



It's still grammatical I think, even ending with a preposition - a rule "up with which I will not put".


So in 6 years you went from 30K to 40K thats really good! So do you enjoy the job?
And I thought it was correct but it didn't sound right! :smile:


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Original post by Jeena_hunt5476
So in 6 years you went from 30K to 40K thats really good!


Including a promotion.

So do you enjoy the job?


Yes, it's great apart from the bad bits, but they're better than most jobs' bad bits!

And I thought it was correct but it didn't sound right! :smile:


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With or without "for" is fine I reckon.
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Original post by chazwomaq
Not that I know of. Nowadays most new lecturers do some kind of Postgraduate Certificate in teaching, but it's nothing like a PGCE and not worth the paper it's printed on TBH.


Thanks for your response, I'm going to do my PGCE this year with the aim of teaching in a college while i work towards a masters+Ph.d, and then go on to lecture. How common is this and have you heard of this before from anyone you work with?

EDIT: I mean how common is the step up from teaching in a college to a university
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Original post by S27
Thanks for your response, I'm going to do my PGCE this year with the aim of teaching in a college while i work towards a masters+Ph.d, and then go on to lecture. How common is this and have you heard of this before from anyone you work with?


It's rare to have people move from teaching schools/colleges to lecturing, although I do know a few who have tried. It may be more common in subjects like Education.

It's a long route for sure. 1 year PGCE, 2 years Masters (part-time I presume), then 6 years PhD (part-time too). Remember that it's common in many fields to do post-docs in between finishing a PhD and getting a lecturing job, which add another 2-10 years, say. But teaching is a dependable career to fall back on if academia doesn't work out (and for most it won't).
Original post by chazwomaq
What it says on the tin.


Hi, I'm a year away from entering uni and I had a few questions.

1) What do lecturers look for in a student?
2) I'm interested in career prospects related to the subject you specialise in, so, prior to entering, what would you recommend I do (extra reading, doing research work....and if so, any suggestion?) Any tips on how to build subject knowledge would help :h:
3) Finally, HOW DO I GET INTO A GOOD UNIVERSITY? WHAT DO I NEED TO DO? I'm obviously not talking about Oxbridge, that beyond me, but Warwick, ICL, UCL, Durham?

Where'd you do your degrees from, if you don't mind me asking.
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Original post by chazwomaq
It's rare to have people move from teaching schools/colleges to lecturing, although I do know a few who have tried. It may be more common in subjects like Education.

It's a long route for sure. 1 year PGCE, 2 years Masters (part-time I presume), then 6 years PhD (part-time too). Remember that it's common in many fields to do post-docs in between finishing a PhD and getting a lecturing job, which add another 2-10 years, say. But teaching is a dependable career to fall back on if academia doesn't work out (and for most it won't).


Thanks for your help, i'll hopefully get funding for PGCE and then use this money to do MSc full time. Final questions now, how long does a PhD in the sciences usually take full time? Do you have the option of splitting PhD into full time and part time chunks? i.e X years part time, and the final Y years full time?

How long was your path from finishing undergraduate to being a lecturer?
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Original post by chazwomaq
Including a promotion.



Yes, it's great apart from the bad bits, but they're better than most jobs' bad bits!



With or without "for" is fine I reckon.


Haha okk! Well glad you enjoy it :smile:


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How important is orthography and correct grammar when you mark essays? English is my 2nd (or even even third language) and the lecturers rarely comment on my grammar or spelling, which I think is strange, because I am almost certain that my grammar is not always 100% correct.
Do you enjoy history?


What do you think of the history department?

What do you think of the history tutors?
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would you treat students according to their ages? whether mature or underage..


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thanks
The world of academia with a greater reliance on exploitative part-time contracts and not enough tenure-track positions with good benefits is going to ****e isn't it?
Original post by fandom-queen
Hi, I'm a year away from entering uni and I had a few questions.

1) What do lecturers look for in a student?


A good student is one who is keen, but doesn't pester unnecessarily. I love it when students ask questions, but not when they've already been answered in the course handbook.

They should be hard-working, doing reading around each lecture and not just expecting to be taught to the exam.

They should be willing to offer an opinion and critique of the subject, but not without thoroughly checking whether it is already an established idea or one that has already been discredited. In a seminar or something you wouldn't be expected to know this, I'm thinking about essays.

2) I'm interested in career prospects related to the subject you specialise in, so, prior to entering, what would you recommend I do (extra reading, doing research work....and if so, any suggestion?) Any tips on how to build subject knowledge would help :h:


Do you mean psychology? Your uni may provide a reading list to get you started. Try picking up an undergraduate textbook on your subject from a local library. It should give you a good idea on what to expect from your early teaching.

3) Finally, HOW DO I GET INTO A GOOD UNIVERSITY? WHAT DO I NEED TO DO? I'm obviously not talking about Oxbridge, that beyond me, but Warwick, ICL, UCL, Durham?


Get high grades in good and relevant subjects.

Where'd you do your degrees from, if you don't mind me asking.


BA from Cambridge, MSc from Liverpool, PhD from Bristol.
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Original post by SeamanDemon
How important is orthography and correct grammar when you mark essays? English is my 2nd (or even even third language) and the lecturers rarely comment on my grammar or spelling, which I think is strange, because I am almost certain that my grammar is not always 100% correct.


It is a criterion...but most lecturers do not comment on it. I used to quite a lot, perhaps because in a previous life I was a copy editor, and got told off by an external examiner!

Spelling and grammar are secondary to showing that you understand the content, but quite often poor sentence construction suggests that students don't really understand what they are writing. If it's clearly because of second language issues, I might make a comment but wouldn't point out every error.
Original post by bobbynojeans
ow did you decide to initially do a zoology degree?H
do you have any students with anxiety and how do they cope/how does it affect them? Do you know?
how do I stop procrastinating a personal statement/how do I write a good one?


I did a Natural Sciences degree, and ended up focusing on zoology, but initially I thought I would go into biochemistry or genetics. Thank goodness for a flexible degree that allowed me to meander according to my interests.

Some students do get anxious. There is support for them with university counselling services as well as GPs etc. I would always encourage anxious students to talk to their tutor or a staff member who knows them. They can offer advice about extenuating circumstances, how to manage workload, seek other support, always bear in mind they won't be experts on anxiety or anything.

Personal statements can be hard. Try starting in the middle, perhaps with factual statements (I have done this and that etc.), then come back to the opening later. To be honest, they're not that important - grades are what separate the vast majority of candidates.
Have you always wanted to be a lecturer or did you settle on it when your dreams of changing the world were shattered?
Original post by Jacques1st
Do you enjoy history?


I haven't studied history since GCSE.

I do like ancient history and archaeology: Egyptians, Greeks, Incas and all that. Modern history not so much.

What do you think of the history department?

What do you think of the history tutors?


Which ones? I don't know any history tutors though.
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Original post by chazwomaq
It is a criterion...but most lecturers do not comment on it. I used to quite a lot, perhaps because in a previous life I was a copy editor, and got told off by an external examiner!

Spelling and grammar are secondary to showing that you understand the content, but quite often poor sentence construction suggests that students don't really understand what they are writing. If it's clearly because of second language issues, I might make a comment but wouldn't point out every error.


What did the external say?
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Original post by jellofo
would you treat students according to their ages? whether mature or underage..


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thanks


Wow, why are you starting young out of interest?

I've never taught a 16 year old so don't really know what I'd do differently. I guess for most things your age doesn't matter, it's your ability. But when teaching emotive subjects like rape, murder, sex etc. it might throw up some issues.

People tend to be accepting at university, so I hope you have a great time.

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