White Middle-aged gay man goes to Muslim country to be gay- gets arrested - Hello!!

Every country has the right to set its own laws.

If for instance someone in Britain wants to set up a business and then refuse to serve gay customers they are breaking the law and will be punished. But there seems to be a lot of whining and wailing when that happens about how unfair it is that they are punished.

Tough. If you want to be homophobic there are plenty of other countries in the world where you can do it, why not move there? If you want to own a bed and breakfast that doesn't cater for gays then set it up in Saudi Arabia or Yemen?

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MagicNMedicine

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Original post by SnoochToTheBooch

Well what's the lesson here? Surely it's don't turn a blind eye to Europe slowly turning into one of these Islamic hellholes.

Exactly there should be more legislation to prevent discrimination on gender, sexuality or racial grounds, to make sure we are as inhospitable as possible for those types of discriminatory ideology.

Reply 22

Eboracum

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Original post by MagicNMedicine

Every country has the right to set its own laws.

If for instance someone in Britain wants to set up a business and then refuse to serve gay customers they are breaking the law and will be punished. But there seems to be a lot of whining and wailing when that happens about how unfair it is that they are punished.

Tough. If you want to be homophobic there are plenty of other countries in the world where you can do it, why not move there? If you want to own a bed and breakfast that doesn't cater for gays then set it up in Saudi Arabia or Yemen?

If those laws violate accepted universal human rights, that sovereignty is lost.

Original post by gt459

I'm hoping this is sarcasm, as sarcasm this is funny :smile:

I never joke about my work 007.

Reply 23

gt459

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Original post by Eboracum

If those laws violate accepted universal human rights, that sovereignty is lost.

I never joke about my work 007.

Does that apply if the country in question hasn't accepted said human rights?

Not overly familiar with the international rules :smile:

Reply 24

Ggmu!

Gotta say I feel sorry for the bloke for his ordeal but what a fool, why would he travel to Morocco for this? I think he was going for some kind of sex tourism which again I cannot judge him for, but he picked the wrong country and should've known the strict laws of the place before he went. Just a fool.

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Reply 25

UtopiaofEurope

he went to a backwards, primitive, barbaric, oppressive muslim country. what does he expect ?

i hope he returns safely

Reply 26

Viva Emptiness

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Original post by Welsh_insomniac

So the whole of TSR goes crazy when you victim blame about rape... but when it comes to being a homosexual in a muslim country then the victim is obviously to blame and we should respect the laws of the land that is homophobic.

Good to know TSR has a strong moral compass!

It's nothing to do with morality, it's to do with stupidity. If you go to another country where certain activities that you plan to engage in are illegal, then you're a fool if you expect to get away with it.

It's completely outside of whether it's right or wrong.

Reply 27

Illiberal Liberal

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Original post by Welsh_insomniac

So the whole of TSR goes crazy when you victim blame about rape... but when it comes to being a homosexual in a muslim country then the victim is obviously to blame and we should respect the laws of the land that is homophobic.

Good to know TSR has a strong moral compass!

This.

I think a lot of people are missing the point; there are, or rather there should be, universal standards of how all humans deserve to be treated. If someone is treated in a way that doesn't satisfy this criteria then no portion of the blame should be served to the individual concerned, but all should be attributed to the offending legislature/country.

(edited 9 years ago)

Reply 28

KingBradly

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Original post by Welsh_insomniac

So the whole of TSR goes crazy when you victim blame about rape... but when it comes to being a homosexual in a muslim country then the victim is obviously to blame and we should respect the laws of the land that is homophobic.

Good to know TSR has a strong moral compass!

Exactly. It's really sad. The left seems to defend homophobia and anti-antisemitism these days.

Reply 29

KingBradly

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Original post by Viva Emptiness

It's nothing to do with morality, it's to do with stupidity. If you go to another country where certain activities that you plan to engage in are illegal, then you're a fool if you expect to get away with it.

It's completely outside of whether it's right or wrong.

So has blaming the victim now become right-on as long as the subject is a victim of Islam?

Reply 30

Viva Emptiness

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Original post by KingBradly

So has blaming the victim now become right-on as long as the subject is a victim of Islam?

Not at all, what exactly is he a victim of? Breaking the law?

Reply 31

Doctor_Einstein

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Original post by Law-Hopeful

This.

I think a lot of people are missing the point; there are, or rather there should be, universal standards of how all humans deserve to be treated. If someone is treated in a way that doesn't satisfy this criteria then no portion of the blame should be served to the individual concerned, but all should be attributed to the offending legislature/country.

And who should decide on the international standards? The Western nations I presume?

Reply 32

gt459

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Original post by Doctor_Einstein

And who should decide on the international standards? The Western nations I presume?

Pretty sure it was decided on by the United Nations - which includes countries other than just the west.

Reply 33

AdamCee

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Original post by Welsh_insomniac

So the whole of TSR goes crazy when you victim blame about rape... but when it comes to being a homosexual in a muslim country then the victim is obviously to blame and we should respect the laws of the land that is homophobic.

Good to know TSR has a strong moral compass!

Could not agree with this more.

I don't know the entire story but I believe he was arrested at a bus stop for being suspected of having homosexual images on his phone, which turned out to be true; he was also on holiday, not living there. It's not like he was there was PDA with another man.

Reply 34

Eboracum

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Original post by gt459

Does that apply if the country in question hasn't accepted said human rights?

Not overly familiar with the international rules :smile:

Human rights are non-negotiable. It's unacceptable not to conform with the expected world standard based on either backward religions or because it could harm an authoritarian government's grasp on power. Doesn't matter what the government in question thinks, they can be overthrown by awesome military power should it come to that.

Reply 35

DJC1996

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Original post by Madd Taurusette

Is that a trick sentence. :s-smilie:

Like if I even remotely disagree: "AHA! Homophobe!"

If I don't disagree: "AHA! Liberal!"

:rolleyes:

You, ma'am, are homophobe x

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Reply 36

UtopiaofEurope

Original post by Doctor_Einstein

And who should decide on the international standards? The Western nations I presume?

western standards are enlightened. The west is a beacon of civlisation.

(edited 9 years ago)

Reply 37

Doctor_Einstein

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Original post by gt459

Pretty sure it was decided on by the United Nations - which includes countries other than just the west.

But the West undoubtedly have the most power in the united nations.

Reply 38

Illiberal Liberal

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Original post by Doctor_Einstein

And who should decide on the international standards? The Western nations I presume?

The international human rights movement.

Original post by Eboracum

Human rights are non-negotiable. It's unacceptable not to conform with the expected world standard based on either backward religions or because it could harm an authoritarian government's grasp on power. Doesn't matter what the government in question thinks, they can be overthrown by awesome military power should it come to that.