Should PE Be Changed?

But they won't enjoy it, it'll carry on how it has been for the past ten years, and people will find a way out of doing PE.
Simply saying "do PE" won't do anything.

As I said earlier in this thread, positive reinforcement. When all students take part in PE, they get something (even if its just a sticker or something in primary school). The first person to get x many stickers gets something.
Or some **** like that.

From what I've seen being a yr. 13 student, people won't do PE if they don't enjoy it. And saying "do it" won't make them do it.

Reply 83

Mr.God

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Simulatio

But they won't enjoy it, it'll carry on how it has been for the past ten years, and people will find a way out of doing PE.
Simply saying "do PE" won't do anything.

Kids don't enjoy maths and science either, but we make them do that.

Ultimately all school as an institution can do is to enforce children learning and exercising until they get to an age where they're responsible for themselves, and hope that by that age they've learned enough of a sense of desire to continue those things that they do so into adulthood.

Reply 84

The_Bear

Whilst generally what you say is accurate I must bring you up on this:

Theres too much obsession with weight. Teach people moderation, stop the constant weight obsession and people will be much happier. We've survived for the past 5000 years like that, why should we screw it up?

We didn't have McDonalds and ready meals in the last 5000 years. Obese people have more medical problems but if the cost of treating them is less than a normal person living 20 years longer then I think it's perfectly acceptable to let them eat themselves to death. There is too much state interference in telling people how to live their lives.

The state should teach the children, not the adults. PE should be enforced. Injured people should be in the pool. Overweight kids should be forced to do extra PE.

Reply 85

But does everybody do well in Maths and Science?
No. Because people don't want to do it, or don't enjoy it.

In the same way, if people don't like or want to do PE, they just won't work at it. And then the whole point of doing PE is compeltly defied.

Reply 86

Simulatio

But does everybody do well in Maths and Science?
No. Because people don't want to do it, or don't enjoy it.

In the same way, if people don't like or want to do PE, they just won't work at it. And then the whole point of doing PE is compeltly defied.

but everyone can, at the least, run around a field.

Reply 87

Helenia

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The_Bear

We didn't have McDonalds and ready meals in the last 5000 years. Obese people have more medical problems but if the cost of treating them is less than a normal person living 20 years longer then I think it's perfectly acceptable to let them eat themselves to death. There is too much state interference in telling people how to live their lives.

The state should teach the children, not the adults. PE should be enforced. Injured people should be in the pool. Overweight kids should be forced to do extra PE.

Also, people's lives in general were much more active. Until the last few decades, most people worked in manual jobs. Fewer people had cars, it was more acceptable for kids to walk some distance to school, and there were l not so many gadgets for making housework easy. It was possible to keep fit without having to actively exercise, just because your job required it. Even being a housewife can be quite exercise-y! But things have changed now.

Reply 88

People can fill in science sheets. Does that make them scientists?

Running around the field won't make you fit a couple of times won't make you fit. And there will be the people who choose to walk, or to give up and have a cigarette halfway through.

Don't get me wrong, I find the "obesity crisis" as worrying as the next person. I just think that people have gone completly OTT with it, and that the government is tackling it in all the wrong ways.
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Reply 89

Simulatio

People can fill in science sheets. Does that make them scientists?

Running around the field won't make you fit a couple of times won't make you fit. And there will be the people who choose to walk, or to give up and have a cigarette halfway through.

Don't get me wrong, I find the "obesity crisis" as worrying as the next person. I just think that people have gone completly OTT with it, and that the government is tackling it in all the wrong ways.
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running around a field a couple of times will keep you fitter than not running around a couple of times.

i hate fatties.

Reply 90

kasias

I used to HATE PE. I didn't like being forced to to sports I didn't like with people who I didn't like who didn't want to do it either. But I'm glad I was forced to keep doing it, it's great now. We get to choose what we want to do and the classes are mixed instead of single sex, which I think is a better way to do it. Sorry if I'm being sexist but at my school the girls are too uncompetitive and the guys are too competitive and mixing us makes it more balanced.
I even do hockey now, which I used to despise most of all, but it's really good. I even try.

I agree with Stimulatio, positive re-inforcement is needed. It used to all be "do this or you'll get lines", nothing ever good. (Now we are just completely ignored which is fine by me)

Reply 91

notts

i hate fatties.

You've spoken to every single "fatty" in the world, and decided that you hate them? Or, you just hate them because they weigh more than you, and you like to feel ****ing superior?
Is your life that pathetic that you feel the need to berate people who look differently just so that you can get your kicks?

(Yes, I'm getting bitchy now. I'm tired, I need a good nights sleep, which I haven't had in about a month. And I'm pissed off with society. Sorry.)

Reply 92

kasias

notts

running around a field a couple of times will keep you fitter than not running around a couple of times.

i hate fatties.

The problem is that you can get away with not trying. It's pretty objective whether someone is trying to it's hard to enforce.

The difference between PE and filling in a sheet is that you've either filled in the sheet (or tried, even if it's wrong) or not filled in the sheet, while with PE theres shades of grey.

Reply 93

Simulatio

You've spoken to every single "fatty" in the world, and decided that you hate them? Or, you just hate them because they weigh more than you, and you like to feel ****ing superior?
Is your life that pathetic that you feel the need to berate people who look differently just so that you can get your kicks?

(Yes, I'm getting bitchy now. I'm tired, I need a good nights sleep, which I haven't had in about a month. And I'm pissed off with society. Sorry.)

i dont berate people who look differently otherwise i would have said i hate muscly people/blacks/gingers etc. which i do not.

i hate people too lazy to eat reasonably and do a bit of exercise.
obviously, people who are fat from genetics get a pass.
in no way do i get a kick out of it, im just sick of our lazy society where people take no responsibility for their actions- including looking after their body.
why should i have to pay for all these fatties getting treatment on the nhs, just because they shoved one too many cheeseburgers in their mouth and couldnt be assed to choke down a salad every few days, or get up 20 minutes earlier and walk/cycle to work and so on.

kasias, you cant TRY to run around a field.. even walking would make them fitter.
personally, i think they should be followed by guards with tasers.

but thats just me.

Reply 94

The_Bear

Well I think we can solve the problem, DONT let them get away with not trying.

So true about the active lifestyles, office jobs and home entertainment involve sitting on yer bum all day.

Reply 95

The_Bear

Well I think we can solve the problem, DONT let them get away with not trying.

So true about the active lifestyles, office jobs and home entertainment involve sitting on yer bum all day.

im so much more unfit at home than at uni.

at uni, 5 hours of hockey training a week, a few runs, a few games of squash and a hockey match

at home: 9-5 job, a few runs.

Reply 96

JonnoE

notts

i dont berate people who look differently otherwise i would have said i hate muscly people/blacks/gingers etc. which i do not.

i hate people too lazy to eat reasonably and do a bit of exercise.
obviously, people who are fat from genetics get a pass.
in no way do i get a kick out of it, im just sick of our lazy society where people take no responsibility for their actions- including looking after their body.
why should i have to pay for all these fatties getting treatment on the nhs, just because they shoved one too many cheeseburgers in their mouth and couldnt be assed to choke down a salad every few days, or get up 20 minutes earlier and walk/cycle to work and so on.

kasias, you cant TRY to run around a field.. even walking would make them fitter.
personally, i think they should be followed by guards with tasers.

but thats just me.

As opposed to the "sporty" crew, which you quite happily pay for for their vandalism etc. Maybe I am generalising here, but the lazy people in front of their computers all day don't cause the vandalism and destruction and contribute to this ASBO culture, which to me seems a bit more important than your hatred of "fatties."
What you pay for in one group of people is subsidised in something else by another group.

As for Compulsory PE, if you don't want to do it there is no exam at the end, hence no problem. (I am by no means fat. I go to the gym 3 times a week but refuse to do PE due to its nature.)

Maths, English etc does not hurt anybody. Compulsory PE does. Broken legs, fractured this fractured that which lead to absences from school which affects the more important side to school, academic education. I would rather be able to factorise equations than be considered a cool "jock" who can kick a ball at a good angle. Team games in Compulsory PE are not quite that. It is a bunch of individuals who take the game far, far too seriously masquerading as a team. "Oh ******, pass the ball to me! <spits on ground whilst oozing testosterone>

I haven't participated in a compulsory PE lesson in over a year, I am not proud of it, but, my sanity and self-esteem is more important.

Reply 97

The_Bear