Do you support the same party as your parents?
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Mother is Old Labour, father is classical liberal disaffected with all the parties. I align with my father closer than my mother though I went through a teenage phase of hard socialism.
Currently I would not vote for the Tories because of the horrendous damage they have done to the justice system by savaging legal aid. Nor could I vote Labour because I do not have confidence in Miliband and Balls to properly manage the economy.
If the olde Liberal party stand in my constituency I will vote for them.
Currently I would not vote for the Tories because of the horrendous damage they have done to the justice system by savaging legal aid. Nor could I vote Labour because I do not have confidence in Miliband and Balls to properly manage the economy.
If the olde Liberal party stand in my constituency I will vote for them.
Original post by WKUK
My parents are both Lib Dems and I used to support them as well because I assumed that they knew best, but as I took more interest in politics I realized that the I agree with the Conservatives on almost everything. I quickly went right wing and now cringe at how I used to defend Nick Clegg in arguments with friends.
Now I've broken free from the shackles of my left wing household I was wondering if anyone else has done something similar.
So do you vote for the same political party as your parents?
Now I've broken free from the shackles of my left wing household I was wondering if anyone else has done something similar.
So do you vote for the same political party as your parents?
Me too. My parents have voted Labour probably forever (with the occasional Lib dem vote) and I'm pretty much the opposite to their political views. I'm socially very liberal, but at the same time conservative on probably all economic issues, so Cameron's conservativism would describe me perfectly.
Original post by Birkenhead
They are consistently described as far-right, hence national socialists.
Nationalism has nothing to do with right-wing economics, usually quite the reverse in fact. The BNP are extreme authoritarians. I have looked into the rise of these parties in Europe academically and it's not as simple as "far-right".
National socialism means everyone (of the right ethnic/national group) subsumes their individuality and works not for the people's own advancement but for the nation's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Economics and read down
Original post by meowoof
I would crap in my hands and clap before voting Tory.
Why?
All well and good believing that but on a debate forum we naturally want to know why.
No, my parents don't have a particular political view, and I'm green (apparently, according to a test I took 
not a particularly good way to judge it, but I was on exactly the same score area as green)
not a particularly good way to judge it, but I was on exactly the same score area as green)
My mum has always voted Tory and my dad has always voted Labour (you can imagine the arguments). I'll have my first vote in May and I'm probably going to vote Labour even though I don't really have any faith in Ed Miliband. I just feel like it would be the least worst vote, because personally I couldn't bear voting UKIP, Tory or Lib Dem.
Interesting that quiet a few of the people who vote UKIP or would consider voting UKIP have voted Tory in the past.
Interesting that quiet a few of the people who vote UKIP or would consider voting UKIP have voted Tory in the past.
Original post by meowoof
I would crap in my hands and clap before voting Tory.
How would that help?
At least wait until after you've voted Tory; you don't want to dirty your ballot paper.
Original post by Rakas21
'No'.
My parents float around the left and have voted for the Greens, BNP and Lib Dems (they are considering Ukip on immigration grounds or Labour to kick out the Tories for welfare reform).
Since turning 18 in 2007, i've never voted anything but Conservative. I'm a capitalist, i'm very conservative on education and foreign policy/defense and i'm generally liberal socially. Because of this, Cameron's Tory Party is not perfect, but it's not bad (though i preferred his more moderate and liberal opposition rhetoric).
My parents float around the left and have voted for the Greens, BNP and Lib Dems (they are considering Ukip on immigration grounds or Labour to kick out the Tories for welfare reform).
Since turning 18 in 2007, i've never voted anything but Conservative. I'm a capitalist, i'm very conservative on education and foreign policy/defense and i'm generally liberal socially. Because of this, Cameron's Tory Party is not perfect, but it's not bad (though i preferred his more moderate and liberal opposition rhetoric).
How far away are you from voting Lib Dem?
You sound like a 'soft Tory', the kind Clegg was hoping to attract through the equidistance strategy, but I haven't seen much evidence of it working.
Original post by TheTechN1304 Me too. My parents have voted Labour probably forever (with the occasional Lib dem vote) and I'm pretty much the opposite to their political views. I'm socially very liberal, but at the same time conservative on probably all economic issues, so Cameron's conservativism would describe me perfectly.
Me too. My parents have voted Labour probably forever (with the occasional Lib dem vote) and I'm pretty much the opposite to their political views. I'm socially very liberal, but at the same time conservative on probably all economic issues, so Cameron's conservativism would describe me perfectly.Same question to you, could you see yourself voting Lib Dem? Part of Clegg's pitch is to people who identify themselves as socially liberal but prefer conservative economics and don't trust Labour. Is it working? (I suspect I know the answer)
And if post-2015 Cameron's conservatism is dragged to the right by his party, could you see yourself voting Lib Dem?
My mum votes Labour because her dad always voted Labour.
I want to be a teacher and cannot forgive the tories for what Michael Gove did, so I will never vote Tory.
I suppose I'm closest to the Greens politically, although they don't tend to run in my constituency, we just had the big three then the two racist parties last time.
I'll likely vote Labour next time, assuming Greens don't run, my local MP used to run the local college so is very good about giving priority to local schools in terms of budgeting, so on that basis he has my support. Though I think Ed Miliband is useless.
I want to be a teacher and cannot forgive the tories for what Michael Gove did, so I will never vote Tory.
I suppose I'm closest to the Greens politically, although they don't tend to run in my constituency, we just had the big three then the two racist parties last time.
I'll likely vote Labour next time, assuming Greens don't run, my local MP used to run the local college so is very good about giving priority to local schools in terms of budgeting, so on that basis he has my support. Though I think Ed Miliband is useless.
My parents have always voted PAP in Singapore, they never really cared much for politics as they knew the PAP will forever be in power. I also support the PAP as they generally do a fantastic job.
If they were living in UK they would be diehard Conservative voters. Myself I don't really support one party as I always support the incumbency as I prefer continuity and stability, generally believe it is better the known devil than the unknown one plus generally believe 99% of politicians are corrupt liars anyway so all that's said generally doesn't get delivered. The only time in UK I never supported the incumbency was John Major and Gordon Brown.
If they were living in UK they would be diehard Conservative voters. Myself I don't really support one party as I always support the incumbency as I prefer continuity and stability, generally believe it is better the known devil than the unknown one plus generally believe 99% of politicians are corrupt liars anyway so all that's said generally doesn't get delivered. The only time in UK I never supported the incumbency was John Major and Gordon Brown.
Original post by Azurefeline
No, my parents don't have a particular political view, and I'm green (apparently, according to a test I took not a particularly good way to judge it, but I was on exactly the same score area as green)
not a particularly good way to judge it, but I was on exactly the same score area as green)your green and your parents have no earthly political views? are you an alien?
Original post by Louis.
How far away are you from voting Lib Dem?
You sound like a 'soft Tory', the kind Clegg was hoping to attract through the equidistance strategy, but I haven't seen much evidence of it working.
Same question to you, could you see yourself voting Lib Dem? Part of Clegg's pitch is to people who identify themselves as socially liberal but prefer conservative economics and don't trust Labour. Is it working? (I suspect I know the answer)
And if post-2015 Cameron's conservatism is dragged to the right by his party, could you see yourself voting Lib Dem?
You sound like a 'soft Tory', the kind Clegg was hoping to attract through the equidistance strategy, but I haven't seen much evidence of it working.
Same question to you, could you see yourself voting Lib Dem? Part of Clegg's pitch is to people who identify themselves as socially liberal but prefer conservative economics and don't trust Labour. Is it working? (I suspect I know the answer)
And if post-2015 Cameron's conservatism is dragged to the right by his party, could you see yourself voting Lib Dem?
Currently, no, and for many reasons. Firstly, Lib dems are a very small party whose ratings have dropped significantly in opinion polls since 2010, and the chances of them gaining power next year, coalition or majority (which would never happen) are very slim. Voting for them would achieve nothing, other than act as a protest against Tories and Labour. Secondly I don't agree with all their policies. They seem, like Labour, to have a relaxed position on the EU, which is something I feel quite strongly about (not sure whether I want the UK to leave the EU, but definitely want terms to be renegotiated).
post-2015 Cameron's conservatism would have to be dragged very far to the right for me to consider not voting conservative. Currently, his party serves in my best interests, and I see no reason nor need to vote for another party next May.
One thing that's very clear to me is that there is no way I would ever consider voting Labour. Ed Milliband is dillusional plus would make an awful leader. If he wins next year (which at this present moment in time seems likely) there's no doubt he'll send our country back into a recession
My mum has voted Labour in the past, though neither of my parents feel strongly towards politics at all.
I will be voting UKIP at the next election.
I will be voting UKIP at the next election.
My parents are Labour, UKIP as a protest vote.
The first bit, I could consider though my views align more with more left wing parties. I called both my parents stupid for the latter.
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Original post by Louis.
How far away are you from voting Lib Dem?
You sound like a 'soft Tory', the kind Clegg was hoping to attract through the equidistance strategy, but I haven't seen much evidence of it working.
Same question to you, could you see yourself voting Lib Dem? Part of Clegg's pitch is to people who identify themselves as socially liberal but prefer conservative economics and don't trust Labour. Is it working? (I suspect I know the answer)
And if post-2015 Cameron's conservatism is dragged to the right by his party, could you see yourself voting Lib Dem?
You sound like a 'soft Tory', the kind Clegg was hoping to attract through the equidistance strategy, but I haven't seen much evidence of it working.
Same question to you, could you see yourself voting Lib Dem? Part of Clegg's pitch is to people who identify themselves as socially liberal but prefer conservative economics and don't trust Labour. Is it working? (I suspect I know the answer)
And if post-2015 Cameron's conservatism is dragged to the right by his party, could you see yourself voting Lib Dem?
Second preference going into 2015.
The Lib Dems have greatly impressed me relative to my opinion of them in opposition and indeed i'm with Jeremy Browne in saying that i'd vote for this coalition to continue if it were on the ballot paper. The reason i'm still voting Tory is because especially during 2014 as a whole and culminating in his conference speech, Clegg has seemed increasingly to pander to the left of his party and i'd fear a Farron coalition more than i would a May majority. In essense i'm not sure they've found their ideological sweet spot yet although i think that Clegg, Alexander and Laws have been brilliant.
I would consider voting Lib Dem if Cameron were replaced although i could equally be bought by Ukip or spoiling my ballot for 2020.
I think the failure in his policy is that after the initial lefties left in 2010 and 2011 he failed to embrace the liberal center right enough and instead has become increasingly concerned with getting back those that left rather than sending a message to liberal Tories, that classical liberalism and the Lib Dems should be there natural home.
Original post by DErasmus
your green and your parents have no earthly political views? are you an alien?
My parents don't vote... Doesn't make any difference anyway, governments do what they like, not what they say they'll do.
And no, last time I checked. I'd probably go with them if aliens found me and said I was an alien though!
(edited 9 years ago)
Original post by meowoof
I would crap in my hands and clap before voting Tory.
care to share why? if instead you'd be voting Labour, then all I can do is laugh and pity you.
Original post by TheTechN1304
Currently, no, and for many reasons. Firstly, Lib dems are a very small party whose ratings have dropped significantly in opinion polls since 2010, and the chances of them gaining power next year, coalition or majority (which would never happen) are very slim. Voting for them would achieve nothing, other than act as a protest against Tories and Labour. Secondly I don't agree with all their policies. They seem, like Labour, to have a relaxed position on the EU, which is something I feel quite strongly about (not sure whether I want the UK to leave the EU, but definitely want terms to be renegotiated).
post-2015 Cameron's conservatism would have to be dragged very far to the right for me to consider not voting conservative. Currently, his party serves in my best interests, and I see no reason nor need to vote for another party next May.
One thing that's very clear to me is that there is no way I would ever consider voting Labour. Ed Milliband is dillusional plus would make an awful leader. If he wins next year (which at this present moment in time seems likely) there's no doubt he'll send our country back into a recession
post-2015 Cameron's conservatism would have to be dragged very far to the right for me to consider not voting conservative. Currently, his party serves in my best interests, and I see no reason nor need to vote for another party next May.
One thing that's very clear to me is that there is no way I would ever consider voting Labour. Ed Milliband is dillusional plus would make an awful leader. If he wins next year (which at this present moment in time seems likely) there's no doubt he'll send our country back into a recession
Your EU point stands out to me. Soft Tories probably agree with the Lib Dems on a lot, but the Lib Dems being massively internationalist will stop a lot of them switching. And the EU will be a massive issue in the next parliament.
Original post by Rakas21
Second preference going into 2015.
The Lib Dems have greatly impressed me relative to my opinion of them in opposition and indeed i'm with Jeremy Browne in saying that i'd vote for this coalition to continue if it were on the ballot paper. The reason i'm still voting Tory is because especially during 2014 as a whole and culminating in his conference speech, Clegg has seemed increasingly to pander to the left of his party and i'd fear a Farron coalition more than i would a May majority. In essense i'm not sure they've found their ideological sweet spot yet although i think that Clegg, Alexander and Laws have been brilliant.
I would consider voting Lib Dem if Cameron were replaced although i could equally be bought by Ukip or spoiling my ballot for 2020.
I think the failure in his policy is that after the initial lefties left in 2010 and 2011 he failed to embrace the liberal center right enough and instead has become increasingly concerned with getting back those that left rather than sending a message to liberal Tories, that classical liberalism and the Lib Dems should be there natural home.
The Lib Dems have greatly impressed me relative to my opinion of them in opposition and indeed i'm with Jeremy Browne in saying that i'd vote for this coalition to continue if it were on the ballot paper. The reason i'm still voting Tory is because especially during 2014 as a whole and culminating in his conference speech, Clegg has seemed increasingly to pander to the left of his party and i'd fear a Farron coalition more than i would a May majority. In essense i'm not sure they've found their ideological sweet spot yet although i think that Clegg, Alexander and Laws have been brilliant.
I would consider voting Lib Dem if Cameron were replaced although i could equally be bought by Ukip or spoiling my ballot for 2020.
I think the failure in his policy is that after the initial lefties left in 2010 and 2011 he failed to embrace the liberal center right enough and instead has become increasingly concerned with getting back those that left rather than sending a message to liberal Tories, that classical liberalism and the Lib Dems should be there natural home.
I just don't think there's any electoral benefit to be had on the current path. Purely looking at electoral results Clegg's leadership has been a catastrophic failure. He has taken the party to the right ever since 2007, accelerating after May 2010. Results between 2007 and May 2010 were bad, results after May 2010 have been even worse. For me there's no reason why going further to the right would reverse this trend, in fact it seems to exacerbate it.
I can't see any potential gains of right leaning voters coming close to making up for the amount of left leaning voters the Lib Dems lost. The impression I get from Tories is that they sympathise with the "Orange Book aims" without seriously considering voting Lib Dem. And to actually change their minds at the ballot box he'd have to drag the party so far right that the original base would be completely alienated and he'd basically be starting a new party.
Original post by Obiejess
My parents are Labour, UKIP as a protest vote.
The first bit, I could consider though my views align more with more left wing parties. I called both my parents stupid for the latter.
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lol
I'm in the same position.
Show them this
http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/73-ukip-voters-green-party.html
This man has everything
Either they care so much about immigration being limited and withdrawal from the EU (Green offer a in out referendum so that isn;t realy an excuse for a left wing ukip voter) that they don't care even if UKIP had a baby eating policy or they actually don't understand what UKIP are.
It's depressing that the protest party is neoliberals on steroids party. They are an extreme version of the status quo for gods sake. (other than EU withdrawal). They don't give a **** about UK sovereignty when it comes to letting american corporations carve up our public services though or having the power to sue our government.
WHatever you do don;t let them give you the old you will get more right wing as you get older speech.
It;s aq pain in the ass being so politicaly isolated. Just a source of getting angry at everything.
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