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AQA HIS1B 13th May 2015

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Original post by Georgiexlouise
The question was 'How far did the marriage to Elizabeth of York consolidate Henry's royal authority' - which is the most unclear thing ever. It didn't mention how far was it the most important factor, but it didn't mention success either, so i wasn't sure whether to analyse to what extent the marriage consolidated power, or whether it was the most important factor compared with other factors

Yeah it was a confusing question, but oh well its over now... I actually left it and did the other 2 questions!
Original post by Georgiexlouise
I wasn't sure what the question was asking either. Was is saying how far did the marriage to Elizabeth contribute to his consolidation, as in were we meant to talk about how the marriage consolidated power, and then talk about how other things did too like parliament and propaganda and management of nobles? Or were we simply meant to assess how successful the marriage was in consolidating Henry's power? As in talk about how the marriage did consolidate his power and then the ways it didn't?


Original post by Remne
No idea. I initially talked about how he prioritised forming a Council and also held Parliament to pass other legislation - but he did legitimise his marriage to Elizabeth. Then I talked about how the marriage failed in preventing the Lovell and Simnel rebellions, then how the marriage WAS important in maintaining dynastic security and being a tool for propaganda (although there were also other propaganda devices that he used).

Tried to cover both interpretations of the question and it became a mess.


Original post by Georgiexlouise
That's what i did! Most people at my school seemed to just do a paragraph on marriage, a paragraph on parliament and a paragraph on management of nobles or whatever, and wrote how each of those consolidated his power.

Hence why i thought i'd done it wrong - i wrote about how his marriage was a symbol of the uniting of the Houses of York and Lancaster and an attempt to appease the Yorkists who resented Henry for taking the throne. Then i said there were still Yorkist rebellions so it clearly wasn;t enough for them to accept Henry as King. I mentioned other factors briefly, like how the lack of support for the rebellions could be down to the marriage and the peace it symbolised, but more likely to do with his punishments like Acts if Attainder, but i certainly didn't write a whole paragraph on the other factors like everyone else seems to have done. I focused very heavily on assessing the marriage's strengths or weaknesses in relation to consolidation instead.

Ugh i hate how stupidly they word the questions, it would have been so much clearer either way if they had asked 'How successful was Henry's marriage to Elizabeth of York in consolidating his royal authority?' or 'How far was Henry's consolidation of power due to his marriage with Elizabeth of York?' :angry:


I know what you guys mean, we had exactly the same problem at our school so don't worry you're not alone! I think it was about 3/4 of us did marriage and then other factors like parliament and about 1/4 of us did just the marriage. To be honest, I think they're going to have to give credit for both interpretations of the answer as it wasn't explicitly clear which you should do, meaning if you did the 'wrong' one that's incredibly unfair. I have a feeling people would take issue with AQA if they didn't do that so we're probably all fine! :smile:
I avoided that one and did the other HVII and Wolsey instead. They were pretty good questions overall though so hopefully I've done okay.
The paper was AMAZING! A few hours before everyone was stressing about enclosure and domestic policy only for it to be completely irrelevant! I was so worried my mate Richard would not appear, and there he was, with arguably the two best questions you could have possibly been asked. Then an Empson and Dudley question (I have to admit I blagged it a bit on this one as I didn't revise Wolsey) and then a 24 marker on finance - to be honest I couldn't have asked for a better paper! :biggrin:
Original post by katinthehat
I know what you guys mean, we had exactly the same problem at our school so don't worry you're not alone! I think it was about 3/4 of us did marriage and then other factors like parliament and about 1/4 of us did just the marriage. To be honest, I think they're going to have to give credit for both interpretations of the answer as it wasn't explicitly clear which you should do, meaning if you did the 'wrong' one that's incredibly unfair. I have a feeling people would take issue with AQA if they didn't do that so we're probably all fine! :smile:


ah what way did you do it then? And i agree apart from the ambiguous wording on the consolidation the paper was really good. I'd written a 12 marker on Empson and Dudley a few weeks ago, and got 12 on it, so for that i just had to regurgitate what i'd already written! And loads of people avoided wealth of the crown because they don't like finance/trade but that question was one of the best i could of got. I was really happy with my answer for that question!
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Original post by Georgiexlouise
ah what way did you do it then? And i agree apart from the ambiguous wording on the consolidation the paper was really good. I'd written a 12 marker on Empson and Dudley a few weeks ago, and got 12 on it, so for that i just had to regurgitate what i'd already written! And loads of people avoided wealth of the crown because they don't like finance/trade but that question was one of the best i could of got. I was really happy with my answer for that question!


I did it the half and half way. I wrote half my paper on the importance of Henry's marriage to Elizabeth of York and then the other half I wrote about Lovell and Simnel, propaganda etc. - but my super smart friend wrote about the positives and negatives of Elizabeth of York, to be honest I am not fussing about it because what's done is done and none of us can change it :redface:

I think the Empson and Dudley was thrown into Henry to confuse people, but I was dead set we were going to get the questions from 2010 and we did! And wow that's really lucky for you! I just looked up the mark scheme and, if I'm lucky, I reckon I got about 9 or 10 which I'm quite happy with considering I know practically no other Wolsey :smile: And yeah I really like the wealth of the crown, the key is just not to confuse it with the economy and you're all set :wink: Found it really hard to disagree with it though because all I wrote about was the coronation and bonds and recognisances, which is kind of a weak argument and I should have gone for the biggies like the trade embargo, but like I say can't change it now :rolleyes:

I was really happy we weren't thrown too much of a curveball - hopefully because it's the last year of the spec the examiners will be a bit nicer, but we'll see! :wink:
Original post by katinthehat
I did it the half and half way. I wrote half my paper on the importance of Henry's marriage to Elizabeth of York and then the other half I wrote about Lovell and Simnel, propaganda etc. - but my super smart friend wrote about the positives and negatives of Elizabeth of York, to be honest I am not fussing about it because what's done is done and none of us can change it :redface:

I think the Empson and Dudley was thrown into Henry to confuse people, but I was dead set we were going to get the questions from 2010 and we did! And wow that's really lucky for you! I just looked up the mark scheme and, if I'm lucky, I reckon I got about 9 or 10 which I'm quite happy with considering I know practically no other Wolsey :smile: And yeah I really like the wealth of the crown, the key is just not to confuse it with the economy and you're all set :wink: Found it really hard to disagree with it though because all I wrote about was the coronation and bonds and recognisances, which is kind of a weak argument and I should have gone for the biggies like the trade embargo, but like I say can't change it now :rolleyes:

I was really happy we weren't thrown too much of a curveball - hopefully because it's the last year of the spec the examiners will be a bit nicer, but we'll see! :wink:


Yeah i thought the examiners were quite nice to us. 'Wealth of the crown' is so general you can talk about so many different things, i hate the ones where they are so specific, like a whole 24 marker on trade or something like that, but luckily they didn't throw us any of those.

I'm hoping this continues with my other paper! Which one are you doing? I've got Impact of Stalin's Leadership on Wednesday :P
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This paper was really good! The only problem was that I ran out of time on the wealth of the crown question so I only have 2 very developed and counter argued points on bonds and atrainders and crown lands and then a verrrrrryyyyy hasty one on his pacifist peace policy. I tried to get in customs duties but I had to move on and conclude. Ah well though hopefully I'll have done well enough on all the other questions to make sure I still get an A.
Original post by Georgiexlouise
Yeah i thought the examiners were quite nice to us. 'Wealth of the crown' is so general you can talk about so many different things, i hate the ones where they are so specific, like a whole 24 marker on trade or something like that, but luckily they didn't throw us any of those.

I'm hoping this continues with my other paper! Which one are you doing? I've got Impact of Stalin's Leadership on Friday :P


Ah good luck! I've got the Vietnam War on Wednesday, but yeah I hope they stay nice to us for the second unit :wink:
How did everyone find the paper today? I sat this exam as a resit and compared to last years questions, it was brilliant (touch wood)! Did anyone else think the 24 marker on Royal Authority was a bit broad though? :smile:
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I did the first two questions, in the 24 marker on the marriage I talked about how it helped consolidate his reign (e.g. united house lancaster/york and secured dynasty with kids) in the first paragraph and in the second I looked at all the other factors (e.g. Parliament, Patronage etc.). I'm not really sure about the Empson and Dudley question, I reckon that was my worst but I think I put in a few valid points. :smile:
Original post by katinthehat
Ah good luck! I've got the Vietnam War on Wednesday, but yeah I hope they stay nice to us for the second unit :wink:


I have Vietnam War, absolutely dreading it, I reckon because this one was quite nice, Vietnam will be absolutely terrible!!!:eek::eek::eek::eek:
Original post by katinthehat
I know what you guys mean, we had exactly the same problem at our school so don't worry you're not alone! I think it was about 3/4 of us did marriage and then other factors like parliament and about 1/4 of us did just the marriage. To be honest, I think they're going to have to give credit for both interpretations of the answer as it wasn't explicitly clear which you should do, meaning if you did the 'wrong' one that's incredibly unfair. I have a feeling people would take issue with AQA if they didn't do that so we're probably all fine! :smile:



I remember a mark scheme saying something like...
questions that begin with 'how successful' and 'how important' can be solely about the factor in the question, whereas 'how far' questions are more suited to weighing this factor up against other ones. Hope this helps :smile:
Weird that the Empson and Dudley question came up as everyone is saying how unlikely it is. I did questions 1 and 3.

For question 1 12 mark I said domestic, foreign, charge to henry
for the 24 mark I said about coronation, parliament, actions after bosworth, and elizabeth of york of course

For question 3 12 mark I said about Wolsey's ambition which led to his swapping of sides, luck due to the death of beaufort, his patronage
For the 24 mark I wrote about Wolsey's failings in the amicable grant and the diplomatic revolution then as other factors I wrote about the kings unreasonable demands in the annulment of the marriage and another point I forgot



Anyone else find the wording of the 24 mark questions stupid?
Does anyone remember the questions on Wolsey?
Original post by James9898
Does anyone remember the questions on Wolsey?


The 12 marker was about Wolsey's rise to power. The 24 marker asked to what extent Wolsey's fall from power in 1529 was due to his personal failings :smile:
Original post by edgarcats
The 12 marker was about Wolsey's rise to power. The 24 marker asked to what extent Wolsey's fall from power in 1529 was due to his personal failings :smile:


What did you write on each?
Anyone?
Original post by James9898
What did you write on each?


On the 12 marker I wrote about his skills, his networking/patrons, HVIII's personality and the rise of the pro-war faction under Surrey.
On the 24 marker I wrote about FP, the Great Matter, Amicable Grant, Enclosure and his creation of powerful enemies/lack of allies that worsened through the increasing isolation from the King in the from 1527 onwards.
What about you? I'd looked up the mark schemes for questions similar so I already had a clear idea of the basic requirements of the structure which hopefully came through.
Original post by edgarcats
On the 12 marker I wrote about his skills, his networking/patrons, HVIII's personality and the rise of the pro-war faction under Surrey.
On the 24 marker I wrote about FP, the Great Matter, Amicable Grant, Enclosure and his creation of powerful enemies/lack of allies that worsened through the increasing isolation from the King in the from 1527 onwards.
What about you? I'd looked up the mark schemes for questions similar so I already had a clear idea of the basic requirements of the structure which hopefully came through.

Yes, my answer were similar to urs
What mark schemes are similar to these ones?

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