**** I'm so scared Tories will win now.

I suggest you all go to the mail online comments and look at all the UKIP fanboys claiming the election is rigged. Priceless really!

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Well to be fair Ukip did get a lot of votes but only 1 seat?

As for the Daily Mail (mail online), most of that stuff on there is made up rubbish that is non-news worthy. :yep:

I don't use the DM now anymore.

Reply 581

Smash Bandicoot

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Original post by Raymat

I'd like to see what the country goes through in the next 5 years.

I expect to see a lot of people die.

Reply 582

arminb

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Original post by ibzombie96

1. You do realise that outsourcing and privatisation are different things, don't you? And by the way, the amount of NHS services being outsourced has gone up by 1 percentage point over the last Parliament - how much more are you expecting over the next?
2. That's subject to the will of the people - you don't know we'll leave. Cameron will campaign for our membership, so we may well stay.
3. Why are you anti-wealth? What's wrong with a rich person becoming richer? That doesn't mean the poor get poorer...
4. Why should those who haven't been to university effectively subsidies others' ability to do so? The number of disadvantaged people going to university has increase, by the way.
5.With unemployment set to decrease, real wages set to rise, and austerity to be ostensibly over by 2018, let's see how many food banks are being used in 2020...
6. Hmm?
7. You should care because it affects the country in which you live - I, too, come from a very privileged background, yet I care about the election; not because it will make my family and I richer, but because I care about the future of this country. A Tory government will ensure long-term prosperity by holding back on the morphine of government spending and by promoting job growth, which, in time, leads to rising wages. A Labour government would immediately 'solve' our problems by racking up state spending and state control over private enterprise - this approach, however, is unsustainable, and in the long run, we would be living in a far worse country.

I don't knownwhat what to say if you don't see anything wrong with tuition fees rising and the rich getting richer. There is nothing we can do now. Let's just give it sometime and see. Let's see what a government that plans to take our budget to 1930s level of spending while at the same Time reducing the top rate of tax to 40 can do for us. And this time, there is no LibDem holding them back. They can go ahead and do anything they wish to us. I will take a record of your username and PM you next year this time.

Reply 583

arminb

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Original post by Chakede

no socialism for us sorry. i suggest if you liked ed millibands policies you could move to russia

Were to trying to sound cliché?

Reply 584

ibzombie96

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Original post by arminb

I don't knownwhat what to say if you don't see anything wrong with tuition fees rising and the rich getting richer. There is nothing we can do now. Let's just give it sometime and see. Let's see what a government that plans to take our budget to 1930s level of spending while at the same Time reducing the top rate of tax to 40 can do for us. And this time, there is no LibDem holding them back. They can go ahead and do anything they wish to us. I will take a record of your username and PM you next year this time.

Why don't you actually respond to what I've said. What's wrong with people becoming richer and what's wrong in making people pay for university?

And if I'm still active on this website in five years' time, I think I'll have greater issues than who's in government...

Reply 585

Chakede

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Original post by arminb

Were to trying to sound cliché?

No, were you?

Reply 586

The two eds

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Original post by arminb

Were to trying to sound cliché?

Original post by hdindak

by a tory majority*

Is there any chance you two could move out of the England and up to Scotland please. You will very much like it up there

Reply 587

arminb

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Original post by The two eds

Is there any chance you two could move out of the England and up to Scotland please. You will very much like it up there

I'm in Scotland (Edinburgh). Why do you think so?

Reply 588

Smug Life

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Original post by A level sufferer

Bye bye Human Rights Act, Hello increased tuition fees

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I wish.

Reply 589

The two eds

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Original post by arminb

I'm in Scotland (Edinburgh). Why do you think so?

Oh ok, that makes a lot of sense.

I think there needs to be a mass movement of Labour voters into Scotland. They clearly want to be governed by a left wing government and so that is what they will get especially after the devolution of more powers. It will be in the benefit of everyone if Labour voters moved up to Scotland

Reply 590

arminb

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Original post by ibzombie96

Why don't you actually respond to what I've said. What's wrong with people becoming richer and what's wrong in making people pay for university?

And if I'm still active on this website in five years' time, I think I'll have greater issues than who's in government...

Most successful countries seem to be the most equal ones. Take a look at Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark... Social inequality is a vice. It causes disintegration, crime, repression, injustice and a feeling of social exclusion amongst those who can't afford all the consumer products they see on the telly. There are many things you can read about social inequality and I can't really explain it all in here. I do appreciate how you are trying to have a logical conversation rather than attacking me or calling me a commie. And I do respect your views. I just say that since there is nothing that can be done now, let's just wait and see. I didn't say I'll PM you in 2020 I said next year this time. Give me your email if you want and we can be in touch if you think you won't be a member by next year.

I don't want a society where people should try to be happy. I don't want to live in a society where people can see other people being happy merely because of the school they've been to or the family they were born into. I don't want to live in a society where happiness is something that some have in the expense of others who are always in the majority. I don't want to live in a society where money is happiness. I wan't to have a government that is made by the people and provides for the people. I wan't a written constitution which guarantees the right to housing, childcare, education, healthcare ,social equality. It is no secret that we have one of the most unequal nations in Europe and the outlook is that things are going to get even worse. I am not sure what is going to happen with this government if we lose Scotland. Not saying it is likely, the chance is less than 50% but still. I don't know what 1930s level of spending is going to do to our people. What if we couldn't afford cancer medicine? What if children died because of fuel poverty? What if our schools became overcrowded? What if job insecurity led to crime or disintegration? What if leaving the EU crashed the economy, especially since we have such a high reliance on the finance industry? . Is this government going to be worse than Thatcher's? Or is it going to be just as bad? I am really worried about what is going to happen to this nation because I care, because I love every bit of it

The reason why I said I don't know how to respond to what you said about tuition fees is because even David Cameron doesn't say it is fair that people have to pay for a university education. He just claims there isn't enough money.

(edited 8 years ago)

Reply 591

arminb

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Original post by The two eds

Oh ok, that makes a lot of sense.

I think there needs to be a mass movement of Labour voters into Scotland. They clearly want to be governed by a left wing government and so that is what they will get especially after the devolution of more powers. It will be in the benefit of everyone if Labour voters moved up to Scotland

SNP was a party to the left of Labour. Regardless of the independence debate. This shows that the people of Scotland are becoming more left leaning while Westminister will definitely move to the right with a Conservative majority (no LibDems to hold them back). I don't know what is going to happen here. I don't think the SNP can have much influence. I could sense some degree of uncertainty in Nicola Sturgeon last night. Do you think Scotland will go for another referendum?

Reply 592

The two eds

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Original post by arminb

SNP was a party to the left of Labour. Regardless of the independence debate. This shows that the people of Scotland are becoming more left leaning while Westminister will definitely move to the right with a Conservative majority (no LibDems to hold them back). I don't know what is going to happen here. I don't think the SNP can have much influence. I could sense some degree of uncertainty in Nicola Sturgeon last night. Do you think Scotland will go for another referendum?

I hope Scotland will go for another referendum. There is nothing I want more than for Scotland to leave the UK. I think in the event of a second one there will be a majority yes for leaving. How SNP will go about pushing for one is another story though.

Reply 593

ChaoticButterfly

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Original post by StarvingAutist

This is ****ing awful. Last night, when I heard the exit poll results, I felt physically nauseous. Yesterday is certainly a birthday I'll remember :frown:

Wha?

I'm so sorry :frown:

Reply 594

ChaoticButterfly

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Original post by plasmaman

The left love a bit of class warfare don't they ?

It goes both ways. :rolleyes:

Reply 595

Olie

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Original post by A level sufferer

Bye bye Human Rights Act, Hello increased tuition fees

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Bye bye mental health services and the NHS as well, people keep asking on here why would you vote for anyone other than the Tories, well is this for example not a good reason to not vote Tory??

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/another-tory-government-lead-mental-5556063#ICID=sharebar_twitter

Sure you now have a government who will keep telling you they're for hardworking people and going on about their long term economic plan, but in the real world, people suffer because of their savage cuts and yet I'll probably just be dismissed as a 'liberal-wishy-washy social justice warrior' for even bothering to care about anyone else but myself :confused:

Reply 596

arminb

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Original post by The two eds

I hope Scotland will go for another referendum. There is nothing I want more than for Scotland to leave the UK. I think in the event of a second one there will be a majority yes for leaving. How SNP will go about pushing for one is another story though.

I don't want my country to split but I can't really not say that I see more potential for change in Scotland. Scotland has always made the right choice and was always a much more socialist part of the country. I think we really are going to disappoint them this time. Here's what I made in my head:
1. Scotland is traditionally a liberal country
2. Led by a conservative government when in both 2010 and 2015 the sent ONE Conservative MP to Westminster
3. Scotland is really pissed because of this.
4. They barely took pity on us in 2014 (55% vs 45%)
5. It's 2015 now, and we have another Conservative government, this time more conservative than the last time
6. We **** up
7. Scotland leaves
8. Conservatives will be regarded as the party that made us lose Scotland
9. Conservatives will go to where they belong to. The dark of side history
10. UK will become more left wing without Scotland
11. Scotland will be a ****ing rich country with a welfare state akin to what there is in Scandinavia
12. UK+Scotland will be a better place
:colondollar:

Ok maybe that's a bit too imaginative but it's just a theory.

Reply 597

StarvingAutist

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Original post by ChaoticButterfly

Wha?

I'm so sorry :frown:

Yep. On the plus side, I could vote. Fat lot of good it did though :/

Reply 598

arminb

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Original post by StarvingAutist

This is ****ing awful. Last night, when I heard the exit poll results, I felt physically nauseous. Yesterday is certainly a birthday I'll remember :frown:

I'm so sorry for that. This was the worst day of my life as well. I could only sleep for 4 hours last night and today I felt so down I couldn't even revise for the exam. I'm not sure how long it'll take me to get over this. FIVE years is such a long time. Why can't it at least be 4 years like the rest of the world? Just kill me or in the words of the goody Frankie Boyle just SMASH my temple with a sledge hammer. I just hope this won't happen again in 2020.

Thank you for supporting me on this thread and happy birthday. You know it's going to be your birthday at the next election as well :wink:

(edited 8 years ago)

Reply 599

StarvingAutist

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Original post by arminb

I'm so sorry for that. This was the worst day of my life as well. I could only sleep for 4 hours last night and today I felt so down I couldn't even revise for the exam. I'm not sure how long it'll take me to get over this. FIVE years is such a long time. Why can't it at least be 4 years like the rest of the world? Just kill me or in the words of the goody Frankie Boyle just SMASH my temple with a sledge hammer. I just hope this won't happen again in 2020.

Thank you for supporting me on this thread and happy birthday. You know it's going to be your birthday at the next election as well :wink:

I didn't get much sleep the past two nights either. I had two EMPA papers today; they probably went a bit ****. I finished early both times and then I had to expend all my concentration on trying not to cry. It's so awful. I ended the school day by arguing with some of my classmates about JSA, and they just don't understand how people will be affected by Tory policies. :'(

Ugh, yeah, my birthday is cursed! Well, maybe next time it will be better. I feel kind of spurred on to be more politically active so wider change is possible.. but at the same time, I feel like it's all pointless and nothing will change :/

**** I'm so scared Tories will win now.

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