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Why is death such a big deal?

Hey,
I know it's strange but I've never really understood why death is such a big deal? As someone who doesn't believe in anything after death or at least doesn't believe there is any way to know what happens after death I just find it odd. I mean I find it completley understandable that someone who feels like they're not having a great life would kill himself because what's there to lose? You either have a chance to move on to something new or you're dead and nothing matters anymore. I guess I've just never really understood this value that people attach to life like it's something precious when it's not really anything special it's just like everything else...it can be great or it can be bad. Yes, if someone close to me dies I'd be sad but that's mainly because I couldn't see them anymore but if they died quickly what have they really lost? They won't know what they've missed out on because they already died! They're dead they won't care so why would I be sad for them? Thinking about rationally just really makes me feel like it is irrational to be afraid of death or make such a big deal out of someone dying. For example if I was completley paralysed I think I would rather be killed than continue living because I think that would be the better option but it seems like a lot of people somehow think that is wrong or weird when I think it'd be a completley reasonable choice.

Anyone care to explain?

P.S. I'm not suicidal or anything haha this is literally just a thought and I thought I'd see what other people think and if I'm the only one.
Reply 1
I feel the same. In a lot of cases it makes no sense for people to fear death, I mean, why would you fear death when you lived in a **** hole for example? Obviously dumb lol. Suicide is another thing entirely, which i've never even considered, except beyond the whole 'yeah what would your prefered way be, burning, jumping or drowning' convos (lovely friends).
To answer this question you must first answer this question:

What makes life a big deal?

Once you have answered that you will realise why death is big deal - it takes life away from you and life is awesome :frown:
Reply 3
Original post by TorpidPhil
To answer this question you must first answer this question:

What makes life a big deal?

Once you have answered that you will realise why death is big deal - it takes life away from you and life is awesome :frown:


For who? You are a rational man are you not, I am not so deeply pessimistic that I say nothing in life is of any value, it is of course, if you are like me, born into a middle class family and enjoyed the luxury of a free and wealthy country, and for the rest of us? Those who have to suffer the miseries of famine, war, oppression, inadequacy, even the myriad of psychological problems and constraints people face on a day to day basis, wage slavery being an excellent example.
Original post by whorace
For who? You are a rational man are you not, I am not so deeply pessimistic that I say nothing in life is of any value, it is of course, if you are like me, born into a middle class family and enjoyed the luxury of a free and wealthy country, and for the rest of us? Those who have to suffer the miseries of famine, war, oppression, inadequacy, even the myriad of psychological problems and constraints people face on a day to day basis, wage slavery being an excellent example.


#Adaptive Preferences.

It's easy to say that from your position of privilege now. However, what about people who lived in England 700 years ago? Their quality of life was pretty **** compared to ours now but they still loved life for the most part and certainly most wouldn't have committed suicide even if there were no public shame in it and when they look back in hindsight at folks 700years ago they probably wondered too, how on Earth they ever managed to live. But humans are adaptive creatures; we can grin and bear quite a lot if we have no choice. This is one big problem of a society that provides too much to people for free; people get lazy and complacent.

Life is full of wonderful things. Even if you have to suffer lots of pain to get to the wonderful pleasure of listening to great music; enjoying relationships with other humans; play; competition; eating and cooking the best foods, all those wonderful sights to see; all the drama. Life is glorious. Nobody wants to lose that - nor do they want to lose the potential to taste that even for a minute, twenty years into the future.

Some people are blinded by optimism as well though...
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Original post by whorace
I feel the same. In a lot of cases it makes no sense for people to fear death, I mean, why would you fear death when you lived in a **** hole for example? Obviously dumb lol. Suicide is another thing entirely, which i've never even considered, except beyond the whole 'yeah what would your prefered way be, burning, jumping or drowning' convos (lovely friends).


That's exactly what I think. I've never understood why people in poor countries or with severe illnesses don't commit suicide because I know if I was in their position and saw no way out soon I'd kill myself. I mean why wouldn't you? Of course if they feel like their quality of life is sufficient that's another story but I mean if they believe their quality of life is not great why hang on? It's nothing special to be alive.
Reply 6
People often fear what they do not understand and seeing as death is one of life's biggest unknowns, we are inevitably scared of it, so I guess that's why people see it as such a big deal.


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Reply 7
Original post by Thechillyone
That's exactly what I think. I've never understood why people in poor countries or with severe illnesses don't commit suicide because I know if I was in their position and saw no way out soon I'd kill myself. I mean why wouldn't you? Of course if they feel like their quality of life is sufficient that's another story but I mean if they believe their quality of life is not great why hang on? It's nothing special to be alive.

People in those countries also tend to be very religious and religion does not condone suicide. Religion is also pretty much hope. Fancy things like 'good things come to those who wait' come hand in hand with their beliefs. I agree though, if I were in their situation it would be a different story.
Reply 8
Original post by Thechillyone
Hey,
I know it's strange but I've never really understood why death is such a big deal? As someone who doesn't believe in anything after death or at least doesn't believe there is any way to know what happens after death I just find it odd. I mean I find it completley understandable that someone who feels like they're not having a great life would kill himself because what's there to lose? You either have a chance to move on to something new or you're dead and nothing matters anymore. I guess I've just never really understood this value that people attach to life like it's something precious when it's not really anything special it's just like everything else...it can be great or it can be bad. Yes, if someone close to me dies I'd be sad but that's mainly because I couldn't see them anymore but if they died quickly what have they really lost? They won't know what they've missed out on because they already died! They're dead they won't care so why would I be sad for them? Thinking about rationally just really makes me feel like it is irrational to be afraid of death or make such a big deal out of someone dying. For example if I was completley paralysed I think I would rather be killed than continue living because I think that would be the better option but it seems like a lot of people somehow think that is wrong or weird when I think it'd be a completley reasonable choice.


People have preferences and goals which are left unfulfilled if they die.

A sentient being's optimal chance at maximizing their utility is a long and prosperous life
Original post by Thechillyone
That's exactly what I think. I've never understood why people in poor countries or with severe illnesses don't commit suicide because I know if I was in their position and saw no way out soon I'd kill myself. I mean why wouldn't you? Of course if they feel like their quality of life is sufficient that's another story but I mean if they believe their quality of life is not great why hang on? It's nothing special to be alive.


This may come as a surprise to you, but lots of poor people and sick people enjoy their lives!
I don't believe death is anything of significance, however I do feel saddened at the fact of this being the end of our time on Earth. I've always been fascinated by the universe, and life. Considering we have not yet proven life on other planets (although I'm absolutely sure there is) shows you have unique this planet is. Its come to my attention that I probably have only 50/60 (if healthy) years to live and personally it seems like a very short time to contribute to science and to see our advancements in future.

I personally don't think there is a problem if people wish to shorten there lives, however I do believe they (and most people) expect something from life, whereas my views are to appreciate life and the universe itself. If people wish to make something from there lives, opportunities are there to be created if a person is willing to work for it. Some take the opportunities, some just live out there lives, and some will shorten it. There is little reason to dwell over death (as hard as it can, especially with family or friends, and I do know how this feels!) as I believe life is too short to waste.

I know I've gone off topic a tad so I'll come back to my point. When a person dies I tend to overlook this as it is part of life. As previously said the only thing that saddens me is that we have such a short period of time to live on Earth meaning I cannot see what the future holds for us. This is why I'll be studying in the field of Biology (not yet chosen an area to specialist in), as I have complete admiration for life and wish to be involved in any discoveries in future!

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