The TSR Jewish Society (J-Soc) - thread TWO

gemgems89

Sukkot is beautiful yeah. Love it!

How do you mean? If a non-Jew converts then they're Jewsh. This has no bearing on the mother of the convert in any way.

Male Jews have a wide array of female Jews to choose from! And a fine bunch we all are. :p:

Thanks.

you sure? i thought that converted jews are not officially jews with the same rights, e.g. can't become rabbis.
just wondered how strict that "jewish blood" thing is in the jewish law, but it sure doesn't matter anyway :rolleyes:

true, there are a lot of great jewish females (though i'd prefer to do the choosing myself :wink:

)!

Reply 101

Sum1

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once a jew converts...they are a fully fledged jew......its not like harry potter and "muggle blood" :P

Reply 102

gemgems89

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Faye Valentine

you sure? i thought that converted jews are not officially jews with the same rights, e.g. can't become rabbis.
just wondered how strict that "jewish blood" thing is in the jewish law, but it sure doesn't matter anyway :rolleyes:

true, there are a lot of great jewish females (though i'd prefer to do the choosing myself :wink:

)!

Nope. Converts can become a rabbis.

One can choose for oneself. :confused:

Reply 103

Faye Valentine

gemgems89

Nope. Converts can become a rabbis.

strange - i'm sure i read somewhere that converts have some restrictions...good to know they haven't.

gemgems89

One can choose for oneself. :confused:

i KNOW that one can choose for oneself, i just wanted to point out that i prefer to chose my boyfriend instead of "be chosen" by him (how you put it)...in terms of activity, you know!? ...Nevermind :biggrin:

Reply 104

gemgems89

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Faye Valentine

strange - i'm sure i read somewhere that converts have some restrictions...good to know they haven't.

:rofl:

i KNOW that one can choose for oneself, i just wanted to point out that i prefer to chose my boyfriend instead of "be chosen" by him (how you put it)...in terms of activity, you know!? ...Nevermind :biggrin:

Indeed.

You really have lost me girl. What do you mean? I'll blame the lateness (I know it's only 10pm) of the night and the fact I have two exams tomorrow on my slowness.

Reply 105

Faye Valentine

gemgems89

Indeed.

You really have lost me girl. What do you mean? I'll blame the lateness (I know it's only 10pm) of the night and the fact I have two exams tomorrow on my slowness.

really, don't worry, i'm sure it's just me having no clue.
as i said, i read somewhere that in orthodox judaism converted jews are not termed jews but members of the jewish people (in addition to a dislike of conversions in general) because they are no jews by blood, ergo not "god's chosen people", ergo aren't allowed to become rabbis.
so i thought to myself (naturally): "This really sucks, i dare to call it racist." and wondered how far it goes.
probably i mixed sth up (i read a lot in my life after all) or it was just complete rubbish (which conclusion i tend to).
anyway, i'm glad we sorted that out :wink:

Good luck with your exams tomorrow!

Reply 106

gemgems89

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Faye Valentine

really, don't worry, i'm sure it's just me having no clue.
as i said, i read somewhere that in orthodox judaism converted jews are not termed jews but members of the jewish people (in addition to a dislike of conversions in general) because they are no jews by blood, ergo not "god's chosen people", ergo aren't allowed to become rabbis.
so i thought to myself (naturally): "This really sucks, i dare to call it racist." and wondered how far it goes.
probably i mixed sth up (i read a lot in my life after all) or it was just complete rubbish (which conclusion i tend to).
anyway, i'm glad we sorted that out :wink:

Good luck with your exams tomorrow!

Oh no you can't do this to me. Please explain. :p:

This is untrue. Converts are considered Jews once they've converted... and can be referred to "members of the lost tribes" or something. I.e. they got lost and have found their way back, or something.

Yes. :biggrin:

Thanks.

Reply 107

Carl

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Are we not conflating race and religion here?

Reply 108

Bismarck

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Carl

Are we not conflating race and religion here?

Not really. The second someone converts to Judaism, they are considered an ethnic Jew and a follower of Judaism (the only difference is that if a convert to Judaism becomes an atheist later on, they stop being a Jew, since it means they never really became a Jew). For example, if a woman converts to Judaism, has a child, and that child becomes an atheist, that child would still be considered a Jew by the rabbis.