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My student loan simply isn't enough

My parents downright refuse to find me at all when I attend University. They will provide me somewhere to live when I return home, but that is all. I will be studying full time at Essex University.

I have been offered about 4.15k student loan, my accommodation is 3k.

So I have £1,150 to last me all year, covering books, food, drink, socialising and travel???

I am going to be spending at least £20 per week on food, that's instantly £700 (assuming 35 weeks are spent at University).

Leaving me with less than £500 for text books, travel, socialising, toiletries, phone contract etc.

I literally can't afford to go to University?


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You could get a job?


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Original post by lewif002
My parents downright refuse to find me at all when I attend University. They will provide me somewhere to live when I return home, but that is all. I will be studying full time at Essex University.

I have been offered about 4.15k student loan, my accommodation is 3k.

So I have £1,150 to last me all year, covering books, food, drink, socialising and travel???

I am going to be spending at least £20 per week on food, that's instantly £700 (assuming 35 weeks are spent at University).

Leaving me with less than £500 for text books, travel, socialising, toiletries, phone contract etc.

I literally can't afford to go to University?


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im in my second year and dont think ill be able to continue studying, i have 3 credit cards maxed out, my car needs repairs, my over draft is high, i just want to get a job and actually have some money, its depressing but a degree doesn't really get you anywhere these days, my mate became an estate agent some how at 18 after college, he's now a manager earning, 40K a year thats just salary he gets bonuses and has some property business thing he also have a 2013 mercedes :0 didn't bother with uni and he's the same age as me 22 makes me think I've made the wrong choices lol i try to think "everything happens for a reason" lol
Original post by lewif002

I literally can't afford to go to University?
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You're one of many many students that go to university in a really unfortunate place, where you can't get more grants/loans because your household earns to much, but for various reasons you can't get money from home either.

First off, don't worry: there are bloody LOADS of uni students in this position, I personally know half a dozen in my immediate circle of friends, so don't think that everyone in this situation can't go to uni or has to drop out or whatever :smile:

Try going for a campus job, if your uni has them. You pick your own hours so it won't conflict with studies, and you won't have to do any grueling commutes between work, home and uni. If you let the uni know about your position, you might be more likely to get a place.

If not, try getting a local part-time job, there are loads and they're all used to less qualified/untrained students needing a little extra dosh.

Apparently you can get the full grant/loan if you inform Student Finance that you aren't getting anything from home, but I'm not personally sure how this works, so you might want to call them and look into it.

If all else fails: talk to the student union at your uni! This stuff is EXACTLY what they're there for, they'll definitely be able to help you out.

Hope everything works out, loads of students have little to no money behind them, so don't worry or think that no-one else goes through this.
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Wow.. hope things will work out for you
Original post by pauly9090
Apparently you can get the full grant/loan if you inform Student Finance that you aren't getting anything from home, but I'm not personally sure how this works, so you might want to call them and look into it.


You have to be classed as an indepenedent student or be estranged from your parents to qualify. Informing student finance you're getting any help from your parents isn't enough to qualify.
Original post by OU Student
You have to be classed as an independent student or be estranged from your parents to qualify. Informing student finance you're getting any help from your parents isn't enough to qualify.


Try putting in a claim for JSA + housing benefit, move out from home, get emancipated....or tell them you havnt "known" your parents for years. prove your living alone "tenancy agreement might work" or get a friend to knock up a shared tenancy agreement thingy, It can be done just try different angles. try getting a covering letter from a financial CAB advisor or someone.

Anything you need to do to survive those three years.

http://www.practitioners.slc.co.uk/media/516916/independent_students_fact_sheet_1314_d_b.pdf (might be harder than first envisaged)

Try and meet one of the criteria or as I suggested above try and get some good close mitigating circumstances.
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Original post by lewif002
My parents downright refuse to find me at all when I attend University. They will provide me somewhere to live when I return home, but that is all. I will be studying full time at Essex University.

I have been offered about 4.15k student loan, my accommodation is 3k.

So I have £1,150 to last me all year, covering books, food, drink, socialising and travel???

I am going to be spending at least £20 per week on food, that's instantly £700 (assuming 35 weeks are spent at University).

Leaving me with less than £500 for text books, travel, socialising, toiletries, phone contract etc.

I literally can't afford to go to University?


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Try a loan of 3k when your accommodation of 4.8k.There are worse of people out there ,stop moaning.
Work during university like the rest of us


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Original post by Beardless
Try putting in a claim for JSA + housing benefit, move out from home, get emancipated....or tell them you havnt "known" your parents for years. prove your living alone "tenancy agreement might work" or get a friend to knock up a shared tenancy agreement thingy, It can be done just try different angles. try getting a covering letter from a financial CAB advisor or someone.

Anything you need to do to survive those three years.

http://www.practitioners.slc.co.uk/media/516916/independent_students_fact_sheet_1314_d_b.pdf (might be harder than first envisaged)

Try and meet one of the criteria or as I suggested above try and get some good close mitigating circumstances.


No, none of these will work. Full time students can't claim JSA or housing benefit. To be classed as an independent student it would have to be claimed for the three years before going to uni. Living alone also isn't enough to be classed as an independent student so none of the stuff with a tenancy agreement will make a difference. There are two different rates for living away from home and living at home, but that's nothing to do with being an independent student and OP will already have been assessed for that.

And your suggestion of OP telling SFE that he's estranged from his parents when actually he's still in contact with them? Yeah, that's literally fraud. OP could be prosecuted for just attempting that, so please don't.

What I would suggest OP is that you make a really detailed budget, I mean really detailed, and go back to your parents and say look, I only need this much extra per week to cover me, and Student Finance expects you to help out because of your income which is why they haven't awarded me the maximum loan. A lot of parents don't want to tell their children they'll help them at uni because they think it'll be like signing a blank cheque and their children will constantly come back and ask for more money. If you make a detailed budget and show them how much you're running short by, they may be more understanding.

Also, many students unions run a second hand textbook event. Make sure you find out when this is. Reading lists don't usually change that much between years and you should be able to find a lot of the textbooks you need at a good price. Failing that, see if you can get them more cheaply in e-book form.
Original post by lewif002
My parents downright refuse to find me at all when I attend University. They will provide me somewhere to live when I return home, but that is all. I will be studying full time at Essex University.

I have been offered about 4.15k student loan, my accommodation is 3k.

So I have £1,150 to last me all year, covering books, food, drink, socialising and travel???

I am going to be spending at least £20 per week on food, that's instantly £700 (assuming 35 weeks are spent at University).

Leaving me with less than £500 for text books, travel, socialising, toiletries, phone contract etc.

I literally can't afford to go to University?


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That looks like enough money for the year. Toileteries for the year won't cost a lot. Textbooks can be borrowed from the library if you don't have enough money to buy them (which I don't think you really need to do). If you get a student bank account you can always go into your overdraft. I was eligible for a £1000 overdraft for my first year with HSBC. If you need to travel by train a lot to get home etc then get a Santander account - you get a free railcard which gives you 1/3 off train fares.
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£700 on food? That's ridiculous... Go to places like Aldi/Lidl for food, stock up on the nonperishables, prepare your meals in advance and freeze them.

Also learn when the supermarkets put out their reduced items.

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Original post by applicationa
No, none of these will work. Full time students can't claim JSA or housing benefit. To be classed as an independent student it would have to be claimed for the three years before going to uni. Living alone also isn't enough to be classed as an independent student so none of the stuff with a tenancy agreement will make a difference. There are two different rates for living away from home and living at home, but that's nothing to do with being an independent student and OP will already have been assessed for that.

And your suggestion of OP telling SFE that he's estranged from his parents when actually he's still in contact with them? Yeah, that's literally fraud. OP could be prosecuted for just attempting that, so please don't.

What I would suggest OP is that you make a really detailed budget, I mean really detailed, and go back to your parents and say look, I only need this much extra per week to cover me, and Student Finance expects you to help out because of your income which is why they haven't awarded me the maximum loan. A lot of parents don't want to tell their children they'll help them at uni because they think it'll be like signing a blank cheque and their children will constantly come back and ask for more money. If you make a detailed budget and show them how much you're running short by, they may be more understanding.

Also, many students unions run a second hand textbook event. Make sure you find out when this is. Reading lists don't usually change that much between years and you should be able to find a lot of the textbooks you need at a good price. Failing that, see if you can get them more cheaply in e-book form.


I'm not saying lie about anything, if SFE have deemed your parents financially capable of supporting you but outright refuse as you said, that's pretty estranged in my book. And SFE need to know that one way or another. Even if this time round it didn't help, if enough people make noise it could change things in the future.

Don't roll over and take it like a reference number, fight for what is right.

Lots of students are eligible for benefits if they meet certain criterias.
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Look for a job that is close to your uni, then that way at least you'll get more income for you to get by. I'm a full time student with student finance and I have a part time job :redface:


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Original post by Beardless
I'm not saying lie about anything, if SFE have deemed your parents financially capable of supporting you but outright refuse as you said, that's pretty estranged in my book.


If there's contact it's not estrangement. The SLC 2015/16 Guidance Chapters state:

"Similarly irreconcilable estrangement cannot be inferred simply on the ground that aparent refuses to co-operate with SLC in the financial assessment of the student(e.g. by not replying to letters or refusing to complete income assessment forms), or does not provide financial support to him."

Original post by Beardless
Even if this time round it didn't help, if enough people make noise it could change things in the future.

Don't roll over and take it like a reference number, fight for what is right.


SFE/SFW/SFNI/SLC don't make the regulations. The Department of Business, Innovation and Skills does. It doesn't matter if SLC get one complaint about the policies or one million complaints. They can only use discretion where the regulations explicitly allow them to use discretion.
There is an advert that pops up on my facebook every now and again of a financial company offering to "bridge the gap" between sf funding and actual costs. But they require repayments pretty much start straight away from anything to a maximum of £75ish a month. it is actually an unsecured loan type deal for students, check them out but make sure u can meet the repayments monthly, if you need an extra 2-3000 a year borrow 5000. rinse and repeat. yes you will be in debt that is different from sf debt but if you are completing a good degree that has good job prospects it shouldnt be a problem. It is an option if you are that desperate and there are no other ways you can think of.
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Original post by lewif002
My parents downright refuse to find me at all when I attend University. They will provide me somewhere to live when I return home, but that is all. I will be studying full time at Essex University.

I have been offered about 4.15k student loan, my accommodation is 3k.

So I have £1,150 to last me all year, covering books, food, drink, socialising and travel???

I am going to be spending at least £20 per week on food, that's instantly £700 (assuming 35 weeks are spent at University).

Leaving me with less than £500 for text books, travel, socialising, toiletries, phone contract etc.

I literally can't afford to go to University?


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Your parents don't want to pay for your food???

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Original post by lewif002
My parents downright refuse to find me at all when I attend University.


Selfish bastards. You should just starve to death, that will teach them for being so stingy.
Original post by jcwh97
Your parents don't want to pay for your food???

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Why would their parents want to pay for their food? I don't know anyone whose parents paid for their food during their entire time at university, only on the odd occasion like when they first arrive.

OP if you're not wasteful with your money then I think you could probably manage it. I'd recommend getting a job if you really don't think it's sufficient but to say it simply isn't enough, I thought you were having the issue that it wouldn't even cover accommodation. You'll just need to learn how to budget - the post that suggested you make a really detailed budget to argue that your parents should contribute is a good idea, even if your parents still don't contribute it would be good for you to be aware of how you should spread out your money.

You'll find places to shop that allow you to buy cheaply or in bulk, you won't need to buy textbooks all of the time (the library often orders books if they don't have any or enough) and I'd try and make sure that you're on the cheapest phone contract that you can manage.
Get a job. You also have 3 months summer before uni to work hard and save up, I made so much money in those months and then kept it topped up by having a part time job at uni. Simples
What are you studying?

In my opinion, unless it's a vocational degree or a subject you really, really love, should you bother with the debt of going to uni when you can work your way up to where you want to be in the extra 3 years anyway?

Seriously consider it. I know people who wanted to go into Retail, and instead of getting a degree in Retail or Management which would take 3 years, with debt and they would start at the bottom anyway, they went straight into the workforce and are now 3 years ahead of classmates.

If it's a top or even just a good uni, then it's worth going on its own.

But if you really can't afford it and it has nothing to do with your chosen career path, consider whether attending Essex Uni is going to benefit you or be a burden and of not THAT much influence. You do not need a degree to have a good career.

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