What THE ****

That's actually a strawman argument, as no one is condemning them for eating meat whilst they themselves eat meat, they're condemning the method of killing, so it's not actually hypocrisy.

I'm eating a steak sandwich right now. What you gonna do bitch?

That's actually a strawman argument, as no one is condemning them for eating meat whilst they themselves eat meat, they're condemning the method of killing, so it's not actually hypocrisy.

Mate yes it is. You do know in places like spain they kill the bull after they toy around with it and use it for entertainment. Even in Nepal, Hindus kill "buffalos at the beginning of Hindu ceremony which sees up to 300,000 animals killed to bring worshipers good luck". So why do you people not speak up against these stuff? Oh right, cause muslims aren't in the headline smh.

Fair point. So many cultures around the world have this thing for bull rituals, and it involves torture.

I think Spanish matadors of bulls are the worst!!! I mean really? Why humiliate someone and then poke at them till they bleed out? What is the point? They don't even do it for religious purposes, despite whatever possible history it might have. It's for pure kicks and ****ing giggles.

It remains hypocrisy, as I pointed out earlier, when our methods of killing are notoriously susceptible to error, and some of them are probably not humane in the first place. It also remains hypocrisy when people eat meat from animals kept in terrible conditions and transported under great amounts of stress.

Of course you should be outraged about this, but perhaps you should take a look at your own actions.

Mate yes it is. You do know in places like spain they kill the bull after they toy around with it and use it for entertainment. Even in Nepal, Hindus kill "buffalos at the beginning of Hindu ceremony which sees up to 300,000 animals killed to bring worshipers good luck". So why do you people not speak up against these stuff? Oh right, cause muslims aren't in the headline smh.

As it's already been stated it's an ancient ritual. I don't know your beliefs or if you have any at all for that, but last time I checked, traditional rituals reenacted age old practices and methods in modern times and so on. That's..the point. This particular practice just happens to be disgusting. But the concept of holding to tradition is not.

What is your point.

Plants are not sentient, and even if they were - what do you think animals reared for meat eat? A lot more plant protein is required to produce 1kg of meat than is required to produce 1kg of plant protein.

Vegetarianism is not about purity, it's about reducing suffering. So, even if plants were sentient, vegetarians would still be responsible for far less suffering.

The real question is: are you vegan?

Yes, the conditions they're raised in are awful, true, but I was referencing the hypocrisy specifically to the way they're killed.

Human sacrifice is also an "ancient ritual" in certain religions/cultures, would you defend that also?

Do you eat meat substitutes or eggs?

Human sacrifice is also an "ancient ritual" in certain religions/cultures, would you defend that also?

I already made that point, don't waste your time trying to bring reason into a discussion with her...

yes,why question it?

Fair point. So many cultures around the world have this thing for bull rituals, and it involves torture.

I think Spanish matadors of bulls are the worst!!! I mean really? Why humiliate someone and then poke at them till they bleed out? What is the point? They don't even do it for religious purposes, despite whatever possible history it might have. It's for pure kicks and ****ing giggles.