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I'm not sure how to solve these integration questions.image.jpeg
This is some of my working out. Thanks.
Original post by osayukiigbinoba
I'm not sure how to solve these integration questions.image.jpeg
This is some of my working out. Thanks.

For 7), I think you're getting mixed up with sin1x\sin^{-1} x and (sinx)1\left(\sin x\right)^{-1}.

sin1x\sin^{-1} x is "inverse sine" and you can't differentiate it using the method you tried.

Instead, you have x=sinux=\sin u so find dxdu\frac{dx}{du}. There's no need to rearrange to get uu in terms of xx like you did.


For 8), dudx=ex=u\frac{du}{dx} = e^x = u

So try using uu instead of exe^x in your working.
Original post by notnek
For 7), I think you're getting mixed up with sin1x\sin^{-1} x and (sinx)1\left(\sin x\right)^{-1}.

sin1x\sin^{-1} x is "inverse sine" and you can't differentiate it using the method you tried.

Instead, you have x=sinux=\sin u so find dxdu\frac{dx}{du}. There's no need to rearrange to get uu in terms of xx like you did.


For 8), dudx=ex=u\frac{du}{dx} = e^x = u

So try using uu instead of exe^x in your working.


Ok thank you, I'll try again tomorrow & let you know
Original post by notnek
For 7), I think you're getting mixed up with sin1x\sin^{-1} x and (sinx)1\left(\sin x\right)^{-1}.

sin1x\sin^{-1} x is "inverse sine" and you can't differentiate it using the method you tried.

Instead, you have x=sinux=\sin u so find dxdu\frac{dx}{du}. There's no need to rearrange to get uu in terms of xx like you did.


For 8), dudx=ex=u\frac{du}{dx} = e^x = u

So try using uu instead of exe^x in your working.

Sorry I'm back home now. For 7) I've tried this so far.
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Original post by osayukiigbinoba
Sorry I'm back home now. For 7) I've tried this so far.
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You absolutely cannot take cos u through the integral sign like that. It is not a constant! Integrate by parts.

Edit: Oh and you didn't change the limits either.
Original post by Mr M
You absolutely cannot take cos u through the integral sign like that. It is not a constant! Integrate by parts.

Edit: Oh and you didn't change the limits either.


Oh thank you. How would I integrate inverse sine by parts?
Original post by osayukiigbinoba
Oh thank you. How would I integrate inverse sine by parts?


I was suggesting you integrate ucosudu\int u \cos u \, du by parts.
Original post by Mr M
I was suggesting you integrate ucosudu\int u \cos u \, du by parts.


Ok thanks.
Original post by osayukiigbinoba
Ok thanks.


Don't forget to change the limits of integration first.
Original post by Mr M
Don't forget to change the limits of integration first.


I tried to integrate by parts and I got usinu + cosu which doesn't seem right. Could you show me the steps please?
Original post by osayukiigbinoba
I tried to integrate by parts and I got usinu + cosu which doesn't seem right. Could you show me the steps please?


That is correct. What makes you think it doesn't seem right?
Original post by Mr M
That is correct. What makes you think it doesn't seem right?

When I tried to substitute u=sin^(-1)x back into the answer, it didn't make sense
Original post by osayukiigbinoba
When I tried to substitute u=sin^(-1)x back into the answer, it didn't make sense


You don't need to substitute anything back in. Just change the limits from x = something to u = something.
Original post by Mr M
You don't need to substitute anything back in. Just change the limits from x = something to u = something.


Oh ok so do I substitute 1 and 0 into x=sinu?
Original post by osayukiigbinoba
Oh ok so do I substitute 1 and 0 into x=sinu?


Substitute those numbers into u=sin1xu=\sin^{-1} x . Make sure you are in radians mode.
Original post by Mr M
Substitute those numbers into u=sin1xu=\sin^{-1} x . Make sure you are in radians mode.


Thank you for your help!
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Its been a while since ive done this sort of stuff (simplifying fractions)...... and I keep getting it wrong now :lol: (ikr)

Can someone tell me what im doing wrong please?

I multiplied the RHS fraction by x-1 then added both:
4 + 2(x-1)
-------------
(x+1)(x-1)

Maybe im being stupid but i dont think that simplifies to 2 / (x+1)
Original post by kiiten
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Its been a while since ive done this sort of stuff (simplifying fractions)...... and I keep getting it wrong now :lol: (ikr)

Can someone tell me what im doing wrong please?

I multiplied the RHS fraction by x-1 then added both:
4 + 2(x-1)
-------------
(x+1)(x-1)

Maybe im being stupid but i dont think that simplifies to 2 / (x+1)


Factorise the numerator and you will find something cancels out.
Original post by Mr M
Factorise the numerator and you will find something cancels out.


4 + 2(x-1) 2(2+(x-1)) 4
------------- = ------------------- = ------- ????
(x+1)(x-1) (x+1)(x-1) (x+1)
Original post by kiiten
4 + 2(x-1) 2(2+(x-1)) 4
------------- = ------------------- = ------- ????
(x+1)(x-1) (x+1)(x-1) (x+1)


It's not as difficult as all that.

Here's the numerator:

4+2(x1)=4+2x2=2x+2=2(x+1)4+2(x-1) = 4+2x-2 = 2x + 2 = 2(x+1)

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